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 05/04/2009 08:26:11
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If one does not care about looks is there any race that makes a better Bruiser?
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 05/04/2009 12:19:17
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In reality it matters little but there are some nice racial bonuses (see url below) that go better with certain race/class combinations. http://home.comcast.net/~eq2gamedata/main.html Keeping in mind you can betray and become a bruiser at level 10 I will include good races as well so I would suggest the following races. Barbarian, Dwarf, Iksar, Kerra, Ogre, Sarnak, and Troll are the typical fighter type races. Half-elf, Wood elf and Human aren't bad either. In reality any race/class combo works cause you can make most up with gear but those races generally give a small bit of advantage early game and such.
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 05/04/2009 20:12:46
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The absolute best race for bruiser, without a doubt, is OGRE!
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 05/05/2009 17:10:02
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Crabbok@The Bazaar wrote: The absolute best race for bruiser, without a doubt, is OGRE!
Why?
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 05/05/2009 17:15:16
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Shadowdora wrote: If one does not care about looks is there any race that makes a better Bruiser?
Ratongas are the best bruisers if you do care about looks. Otherwise? I don't really know, iksar have a rather OP skill boost.
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 05/05/2009 19:35:02
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Ogre fits a bruiser from an RP perspective, Ogre has 3% HP boost, Ogre gets a nice stun breakout, but the best reason Ogre is best is because they get extra mitigation! Plus size!
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 05/05/2009 19:41:27
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Crabbok@The Bazaar wrote: Ogre fits a bruiser from an RP perspective, Ogre has 3% HP boost, Ogre gets a nice stun breakout, but the best reason Ogre is best is because they get extra mitigation! Plus size!
Ogre fits the class description well but not the actual class. They are too bulky and slow to have such high avoidance.
3% hp isn't that big a deal, the stun breakout is "nice", mitigation well how much?
Small > big Ogres are a waste of space, especially on wargs and standing ontop of the broker.
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 05/05/2009 20:26:37
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maybe 3% isn't a big deal to you, but to a raider it's huge. 3% of 20K health is definetley a big deal, certainly more-so than other races that get 3% power. Also the mit is a little over 200 IIRC. around 220.
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 05/06/2009 05:32:27
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Crabbok@The Bazaar wrote: maybe 3% isn't a big deal to you, but to a raider it's huge. 3% of 20K health is definetley a big deal, certainly more-so than other races that get 3% power. Also the mit is a little over 200 IIRC. around 220.
Oh, well. It's not worth playing a terrible race just for the traits. This just shows that the arguement for allowing any race to choose any traits is a vaild one.
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 05/06/2009 07:24:37
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Ogre! of course ...why are we even argueing this?
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 05/08/2009 05:40:37
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Fatshadow@Unrest wrote: Ogre! of course ...why are we even argueing this?
I have never even seen an ogre brawler before.
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 05/11/2009 14:17:48
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Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote: Fatshadow@Unrest wrote: Ogre! of course ...why are we even argueing this?
I have never even seen an ogre brawler before.
weren't all the bruisers from the epic weapon quest line ogres? and I agree ogres would be the best brawler class due to their extra mit (almost as good as another piece of leather).
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 05/11/2009 23:35:44
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I went DE for my Bruiser, cause tbh, I don't think the racial things should deside if I wanted my toon to look nice or not.. hate the look on the Ogre's.. But I guess now, at lvl 80 tanking stuff, I would swap to ogre in a heart beat for those bonuses 
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 05/13/2009 06:37:21
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luder118 wrote: Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote: Fatshadow@Unrest wrote: Ogre! of course ...why are we even argueing this?
I have never even seen an ogre brawler before.
weren't all the bruisers from the epic weapon quest line ogres? and I agree ogres would be the best brawler class due to their extra mit (almost as good as another piece of leather).
Those are NPCs. And it makes no sense for ogres to get mitigation bonuses unless they were to also get heavy avoidance penalties.
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 05/13/2009 12:54:04
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Why should ogre's get a penalty to avoidance? THAT is just silly. No race gets a racial penalty just because onf of their stats is good. Every race gets SOME form of mitigation as an available option in their racial traditions. Ogre's just happen to be the ones who get "Physical" as the type of damage.
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