Archival Missions Only Giving XP Once - Thoughts?

**Shinryu**

Several faction mates have reported that they aren't getting XP for archived missions that have been done before with another member/player. Is it supposed to be this way or is this a bug?

I can see the possibility of a loop that allows players to redo archival missions over and over again should they give more XP than normal missions, but I haven't noticed many missons that actually give more XP than normals anyway, especially conisdering that crits are often longer and (at least in the case of the old ones) harder. Then again, my RSI that has been doing the missions is 50 and I don't always see the XP I'm getting anyway...

I just can't see something like this being a good thing for what is supposed to be a multi player game... I mean, teamwork is aleady discouraged (or at least not encouraged) by only the leader of the archival mission team earning the mission tickets, which does make sense. But to then go so far as to make it so that you only get a reward of any kind from doing the missions once, whether it's by yourself or with someone else? SMILEY

Just wanted to know what everyone thinks about this. It would make a good question in the Ask A Dev thread too. SMILEY

**imax**

I think im loseing faith......not in mxo......but in the devs. They repeadetly screw up. I guess this is why they work on SOE's least played game.

Bugs happen, But these arent just bugs, These are fowl ups. Everything they add or change has somthing wrong with it.

**Bayamos**

Apparently archive missions are still considered Critical Missions by the mission system.

It was made a while back that doing a critical mission more than once would not grant any XP, this was because players were repeating "Meet Agent Gray" or "Meet Merv" or "Meet Niobe" missions over and over and over for very quick XP. The "fix" affected all critical missions, though, and seems to have affected the Mission Archive as well.

It would be nice if the Archive Missions could be made into a "subclass" of missions different than normal crits and regular missions, especially as a lot of people are using these missions to level... but I don't know how feasible that would be given the things Rarebit has said about the mission system.

**Bayamos**

Oh, and the system has been like this for months IMAX, so you can't blame it on the patch SMILEY

And you are right in the sense that it's not a bug, heh.

**Phluff**

Ok... I have to disagree...

I've done new critical missions by myself and the same ones with others, and always gotten XP each time... so I don't think that's what's happening.... it's something else... and they really need to phix this.

The worst part about this bug/mistake or what ever it really is.... is the fact that's it's causing all my phaction mates to seperate and do missions solo.... missions are much more entertaining when you do them as a TEAM. I get a whole different pheeling when I log in now... and it's not good.

I hope they do something about this.... soon.

Phluff

**imax**

Bayamo wrote:

Oh, and the system has been like this for months IMAX, so you can't blame it on the patch And you are right in the sense that it's not a bug, heh.

i didnt blame anything on the patch, i blamed it on the devs. "add this - that breaks" "change that - This doenst work" OVER AND OVER EVERY TIME.

and this new forums sux hard monkey balls. They might as well say they are shuting down mxo, becasue it feels like they are ripping it to shreds.

**LikwidSmoke**

Well i must disagree with you..

When i do a critical by myself, in return when i do it again later on a mission team i have never gotten XP second.

Since these Missions are Criticials just older ones the same XP scenario applys, so if you are not getting XP there is no bug or problem, its how the critical system is supposed to be.

**Phluff**

Well... I have.. (always) ...maybe I'm not supposed to... but I am.............. if that's the case then... oh well... I guess it's just yet another bug.

**imax**

ok i understnad now whats going on. I was under the impression that lets say for example. I am doing an archive mission for the 1st time, and i have a team member doing it with me also for the 1st time, and i get xp, but the team mate doesnt.

but if youve dont the mission once already and the second time you dont get xp for it then that makes more sense.

**LikwidSmoke**

I suggest you file a /ccr and advise them of the issue and see whats up.

**Shinryu**

Okay, well, whether or not this is a bug, the impact on multi player play, teamwork, and community is still there, as Phluff noted.

When you can have, for example, 6 faction members (one full mission team) online at one time and they are all doing separate things instead of working together, it just doesn't have the same feeling, and this is directly attributable to the archival missions.

Also, I'll be doing the missions with my alt once I do them with my main. I can only look forward to more solo mishing in the future as anyone who isn't level 50 isn't likely to want to lend a hand. *shrug*

**Phluff**

I can do that... but my point is.... everyone's going solo now because of this... teamwork is what makes missions phun. SMILEY ...and there's 60 or so of these to do. SMILEY

yeah... I'm just whining I guess.

**imax**

Here is my theroy, I belive SOE is trying to rip apart mxo in order to make more poeple leave the game, and drop subcriptions, then they have a reason to pull the plug on the game.

Its an outragous claim i know...... but think about it, They spent all the time on CR2, then tried to pull in new players with the free trial, the trial is over now, and the subcriptions didnt go up much from what i can tell, the city seems just as full as it always has and i see less and less of poeple i know and used toplay with online.

The trial failed, Mxo is a failur in SOE's eyes and they are trying to kill it.

**jeffers**

Actually if you read the posts by Rarebit about it, the trial was surprisingly successfuly to the poeple at SOE.

And yeah, about this xp thing, a long time ago it was adjusted so that critical missions would give xp once and then if you did them again you'd get a reduced ammount (I'm sure it's reduced ammount) so if the archives are still classed as criticals then it will give you xp once then should probably give a reduced ammount the second time you do it.

Jeffers

**Phluff**

THAT makes more sense! SMILEY

...but we're getting '0' SMILEY