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Systemic Anomaly

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I thought I'd better ask it here.

The time limit before the box and the attackers disappear is 25 minutes from the moment you activate it.

Now, can I be certain that I can let the bodies unlooted for so long, and not bother searching them before I get drawn in combat and losing time and health?
Or do their unlooted bodies disappear as quickly as standard gang corpses, which means, far less than 15 minutes?



Systemic Anomaly

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I do believe they use the same timer once they get opened for all to loot.

When you first kill them they are on a "damage killed timer", then once they open for anyone to loot they hit the "anyone loot timer" and then go if not looted intime. I think they did stay around longer before, I really cant remember now. However you can see why this would be to avoid the lag issue of bodies staying around too long.




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I believe it's the same with any world mob aswell - only the one with the highest damage can loot it for a few minutes (or maybe including team members), and then it becomes available for everybody.

Are you really sure they can disappear before killing all three waves? Because that kind of sucks for me SMILEY


And another question, is it actually realistic to solo the boxes 2-4, as a 50? The first one is already challenging enough, I've failed twice. Is there any sense at all in trying the following ones alone?


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You can actually solo everything upto the very last pandora box, did it in cr1, I do it in CR2.

The problem is that in CR2 you get hit a lot more, so even with good defense/resistance you are likely to die if you fight them all headon, so you have to get a bit smart on how to fight them 1 by 1.

Yea Mob timers are the same. Don't quote on the pandora 100%, because Ive seen the dissapear like that, but I do also recall doing 3 waves then looting as well /scratchhead

I can get a pandora 3 and try it later, just to be sure.




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zeroone506 wrote:
I believe it's the same with any world mob aswell - only the one with the highest damage can loot it for a few minutes (or maybe including team members), and then it becomes available for everybody.

Are you really sure they can disappear before killing all three waves? Because that kind of sucks for me SMILEY


And another question, is it actually realistic to solo the boxes 2-4, as a 50? The first one is already challenging enough, I've failed twice. Is there any sense at all in trying the following ones alone?

I'm not too sure on the timers but you can easily do a whole box and leave the dead NPC's till the end to loot even on a box 4, although if you run outta time on a box I think any dead NPC's left go aswell.

you should as a level 50 be able to solo 1 and 2 quite easily, 3 if your good and take a few health pills with you, and box 4 usually requires a team to do it the normal way but if you do it my way then you can solo it but you'll be very close to the time limit




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pack-hunter wrote:
zeroone506 wrote:

I'm not too sure on the timers but you can easily do a whole box and leave the dead NPC's till the end to loot even on a box 4, although if you run outta time on a box I think any dead NPC's left go aswell.

No, the corpses stay after the alive ones and the box have disappeared.

you should as a level 50 be able to solo 1 and 2 quite easily, 3 if your good and take a few health pills with you, and box 4 usually requires a team to do it the normal way but if you do it my way then you can solo it but you'll be very close to the time limit

Your description of box 3 and 4 exactly resembles my pathetic attemps with box 1. LOL.
Probably I just suck - or it's because I was level 48.

What's your way, by the way? If it's not a secret SMILEY


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zeroone506 wrote:
pack-hunter wrote:
zeroone506 wrote:

I'm not too sure on the timers but you can easily do a whole box and leave the dead NPC's till the end to loot even on a box 4, although if you run outta time on a box I think any dead NPC's left go aswell.

No, the corpses stay after the alive ones and the box have disappeared.

you should as a level 50 be able to solo 1 and 2 quite easily, 3 if your good and take a few health pills with you, and box 4 usually requires a team to do it the normal way but if you do it my way then you can solo it but you'll be very close to the time limit

Your description of box 3 and 4 exactly resembles my pathetic attemps with box 1. LOL.
Probably I just suck - or it's because I was level 48.

What's your way, by the way? If it's not a secret SMILEY
it's a place in the Historic District, if you want more then you'll have to contact me ingame since I forgot the co-ords SMILEY



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There are 3 good places to do a PB that I know of - one in the Historic District, one in Hampton, and one in Baldwin. The issue is that on Vector, all three places are fine to use; on Recursion, the Historic District one is the only place not plagued by lag. It's pretty easy to do a PB4 in <5 minutes with 2 howitzers and a trauma surgeon. I don't have coords either, but if Denary's not on, just /t Bayamos or Recursion.8ayamos and I'll show you the place.

As for the NPCs, they've always seemed to follow the same timeout rules as any other NPCs in my opinion...



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Well, only my Vector character is high enough, but I've noticed lag in Hampton on Vector aswell... however, Historic District is fine.

What kind of places are these? Don't you get noticed by NPCs there, or something?


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I know one good spot in Edgewater, near Vauxthon. There's a small floor, shaped like a circle that's perfect for Area attacks and heals. I'm on Syntax, send a /t to Reeverb and I'll teleport you to there. It's just 100 meters away from a hardline and I've done all my boxes there.



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zeroone506 wrote:
Well, only my Vector character is high enough, but I've noticed lag in Hampton on Vector aswell... however, Historic District is fine.

What kind of places are these? Don't you get noticed by NPCs there, or something?

you can draw an NPC out one at a time, and fight em 1v1 without gettin yer *CENSORED* kicked, if yer a howitzer aswell then you can kill them all with the collective damage



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Well, last time I tried it from inside a building - they don't see you as long as you're hiding and regenerating, but once you show yourself, they all start shooting and hacking you, and if someone goes inside, all of them go inside. SMILEY

How is that different in this case? Do you activate the box on the balcony, or below? And how do you draw them into 1v1 separately?


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zeroone506 wrote:
Well, last time I tried it from inside a building - they don't see you as long as you're hiding and regenerating, but once you show yourself, they all start shooting and hacking you, and if someone goes inside, all of them go inside. SMILEY

How is that different in this case? Do you activate the box on the balcony, or below? And how do you draw them into 1v1 separately?

yeh you activate it on a balcony, you open the door and IL one, the opponent is brought inside for you to kill 1 on 1



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That's the inefficient way to do it... Howitzer works far better. If you stack Destroyer and Insiduous Code, and have Improved Hacking active, you can do mucho damage even to the level 58s.



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whenever i do a pb, i tend to run howitzer to start off, and then run ravager if theres some high levels to clean up

 
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