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 06/01/2007 15:28:12
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Systemic Anomaly
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phaydren wrote:
Here are some numbers i came up with: It takes 400 codes just to get the 10 archives for one half of the Lv50 Headgear Requirements. Thats not too bad. Next it takes 5 of the Corrupted code from the wastelnd corruptors. To get one corrupted code you have to kill a wasteland corruptor, which has 5100 Hp The damage the insecticide does is a paltry 15 Dmg per insecticide. To kill one complete corruptor You will need 340 Insecticide For 5 insecticide you need 5 corrupted frags Now take the number of insecticde times the number of corruptors you need to kill (assuming that each one drops a corrupted frag every time - which they dont apparently.) 340 x 5 = 1700 Frags Now lets add in the 400 you got before for The 10 corrupted archives. That gives a grand total of 2100 Frags This is a game - Games are supposed to be fun - but to me collecting 2100 frags is not fun, especialy when they dont drop evey time. (and i know this is team based but your still going to have to get enough insectcide so that you can kill the corruptor enough times so that you can get enough frags for the entire team and yourself, whish is 1700 x a full team.) actually.. your looking at about 3000 frags since you need to take health regen into consideration, unless you want to get 340 people together to release it all at once.
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 06/01/2007 15:33:34
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I assumed that it didnt regen its health, Ah dammit. I hope the devs realise by trying to prolong the lenght of the content they are alienating the playerbase. **Edit** Just a though but why not tier the rewards like the pandoras box reward are done, and lower the overall cost of the higher end items.
Message edited by phaydren on 06/01/2007 15:36:14.
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 06/01/2007 15:47:51
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Femme Fatale
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Bayamo wrote:
Roukan wrote:
To add to the complaints: Can you please add some way to know which ones are shooting at us? Everytime I go there I'm in a big group of people and they utterly destroy me because, due to being Aikido, it takes me a little to kill one and I usually pick the wrong ones. /targetdamage works for that I thought I didn't know of that macro Bayamo, thank you.
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 06/01/2007 16:08:20
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phaydren wrote:
I assumed that it didnt regen its health, Ah dammit. I hope the devs realise by trying to prolong the lenght of the content they are alienating the playerbase. **Edit** Just a though but why not tier the rewards like the pandoras box reward are done, and lower the overall cost of the higher end items. They actually don't regen... Because in the end u still gotta colelct the same total Phay.
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 06/01/2007 20:41:33
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Vindicator
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Systematic Chaos takes on the impossible "Corrupter" that seems worthless to kill. And yeah, it is pretty hard seeing how it took 2-3 days of farming for just ONE Corrupted Code. We decided to beat everyone else to the first kill, and we did it. Check it out. 




Zion watches in awe, GG.
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 06/01/2007 23:12:49
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Perceptive Mind
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Well this patch proves that the Matrix Online team does not test out their patches. The issue with the stackable items is just unacceptable to make it to the live patch. There is no reason for that to be "over looked" if they had a testing team or QA team. This is why we need a test server, because there are NO testers on the Development team. This is a lack of professionalism in my honest opinion.
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 06/02/2007 00:33:30
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Systemic Anomaly
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Definitely needs some balancing. I think the dev team has acknowledged that there are number issues that need to be tweaked so lets wait and see.
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 06/02/2007 02:08:59
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50mins? for a 10% chance of spawn? dude....thats not right. I think you should scale the changes IE 10mins - 1-10% 20mins - 10-20% 30mins - 20-30% 40mins - 30-40% 50mins - +50% Also, Drop the mount of code needed to collect and make the flit gun useful again! for once. PS. Make Decaying Code stackable....Now....
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 06/02/2007 02:15:09
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Mainframe Invader
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Warboy090 wrote:
Drop the mount of code needed to collect and make the flit gun useful again! for once. PS. Make Decaying Code stackable....Now.... I couldn't agree more. But where are we going to find the flit gun if anyone if us don't have it?
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 06/02/2007 03:06:59
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Michael1 wrote:
Warboy090 wrote:
Drop the mount of code needed to collect and make the flit gun useful again! for once. PS. Make Decaying Code stackable....Now.... I couldn't agree more. But where are we going to find the flit gun if anyone if us don't have it? Well us vets need our flit guns, Since We faced this bastages before. So we should have it just abit easier then the others. So...Anyone not a Vet, I feel bad for tho. Also, If you wanna kept the Amount of Decaying Code the same, Make the flit guns deal 250dmg to the Corrupted.
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 06/02/2007 03:51:25
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Fansite Operator
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pack-hunter wrote:
phaydren wrote:
Here are some numbers i came up with: It takes 400 codes just to get the 10 archives for one half of the Lv50 Headgear Requirements. Thats not too bad. Next it takes 5 of the Corrupted code from the wastelnd corruptors. To get one corrupted code you have to kill a wasteland corruptor, which has 5100 Hp The damage the insecticide does is a paltry 15 Dmg per insecticide. To kill one complete corruptor You will need 340 Insecticide For 5 insecticide you need 5 corrupted frags Now take the number of insecticde times the number of corruptors you need to kill (assuming that each one drops a corrupted frag every time - which they dont apparently.) 340 x 5 = 1700 Frags Now lets add in the 400 you got before for The 10 corrupted archives. That gives a grand total of 2100 Frags This is a game - Games are supposed to be fun - but to me collecting 2100 frags is not fun, especialy when they dont drop evey time. (and i know this is team based but your still going to have to get enough insectcide so that you can kill the corruptor enough times so that you can get enough frags for the entire team and yourself, whish is 1700 x a full team.) actually.. your looking at about 3000 frags since you need to take health regen into consideration, unless you want to get 340 people together to release it all at once. Yup, incesticide damage definately needs a rebalance, 15dmg per consumable hit? On a 5k hp npc? ¬.¬ So lets see... 1. stackable codes 2. vastly lowered spawn check timers 3. increased incesticide damage To make the content enjoyable/playable. Sound good to everyone?
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 06/02/2007 03:56:36
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Systemic Anomaly
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cloudwolf wrote:
pack-hunter wrote:
phaydren wrote:
Here are some numbers i came up with: It takes 400 codes just to get the 10 archives for one half of the Lv50 Headgear Requirements. Thats not too bad. Next it takes 5 of the Corrupted code from the wastelnd corruptors. To get one corrupted code you have to kill a wasteland corruptor, which has 5100 Hp The damage the insecticide does is a paltry 15 Dmg per insecticide. To kill one complete corruptor You will need 340 Insecticide For 5 insecticide you need 5 corrupted frags Now take the number of insecticde times the number of corruptors you need to kill (assuming that each one drops a corrupted frag every time - which they dont apparently.) 340 x 5 = 1700 Frags Now lets add in the 400 you got before for The 10 corrupted archives. That gives a grand total of 2100 Frags This is a game - Games are supposed to be fun - but to me collecting 2100 frags is not fun, especialy when they dont drop evey time. (and i know this is team based but your still going to have to get enough insectcide so that you can kill the corruptor enough times so that you can get enough frags for the entire team and yourself, whish is 1700 x a full team.) actually.. your looking at about 3000 frags since you need to take health regen into consideration, unless you want to get 340 people together to release it all at once. Yup, incesticide damage definately needs a rebalance, 15dmg per consumable hit? On a 5k hp npc? ¬.¬ So lets see... 1. stackable codes 2. vastly lowered spawn check timers 3. increased incesticide damage To make the content enjoyable/playable. Sound good to everyone? /agree 
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 06/02/2007 04:11:49
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Yasamuu1 wrote:
cloudwolf wrote:
pack-hunter wrote:
phaydren wrote:
Here are some numbers i came up with: It takes 400 codes just to get the 10 archives for one half of the Lv50 Headgear Requirements. Thats not too bad. Next it takes 5 of the Corrupted code from the wastelnd corruptors. To get one corrupted code you have to kill a wasteland corruptor, which has 5100 Hp The damage the insecticide does is a paltry 15 Dmg per insecticide. To kill one complete corruptor You will need 340 Insecticide For 5 insecticide you need 5 corrupted frags Now take the number of insecticde times the number of corruptors you need to kill (assuming that each one drops a corrupted frag every time - which they dont apparently.) 340 x 5 = 1700 Frags Now lets add in the 400 you got before for The 10 corrupted archives. That gives a grand total of 2100 Frags This is a game - Games are supposed to be fun - but to me collecting 2100 frags is not fun, especialy when they dont drop evey time. (and i know this is team based but your still going to have to get enough insectcide so that you can kill the corruptor enough times so that you can get enough frags for the entire team and yourself, whish is 1700 x a full team.) actually.. your looking at about 3000 frags since you need to take health regen into consideration, unless you want to get 340 people together to release it all at once. Yup, incesticide damage definately needs a rebalance, 15dmg per consumable hit? On a 5k hp npc? ¬.¬ So lets see... 1. stackable codes 2. vastly lowered spawn check timers 3. increased incesticide damage To make the content enjoyable/playable. Sound good to everyone? /agree  Actually, i'd rather not see the dmg raised. It has been done (i've still to find out how tough it was) but lookng at the 4 team members...its not that hard by the looks of things. I like this idea, because it brings not only everyone together (little harder on vec) but also brings back memories and the old style insecticide/flint gun trouble....we had 5dmg back then on a level 50 with dev regain -.- lol so i'm all for the best challange in the game.
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 06/02/2007 04:14:34
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Well the problem can be viewed/solved in 2 ways. Either the damage has to be increased or the weapon easier to obtain (the old event had the corrupters dropping them for example). Thousands of npcs worth of farming is just unacceptable.
Message edited by cloudwolf on 06/02/2007 04:15:23.
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 06/02/2007 04:38:35
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cloudwolf wrote:
Well the problem can be viewed/solved in 2 ways. Either the damage has to be increased or the weapon easier to obtain (the old event had the corrupters dropping them for example). Thousands of npcs worth of farming is just unacceptable. QFT
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