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Ascendent Logic

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So after all this time the Machines see some significance to Sati and the possible exploitation of her abilities. You know this reminds me of a suspicion I always had about the Machines and Exiles. I have always suspected that once a Program leaves the mainframe for the Matrix one of the first things they do is tamper with the code available to them. The Merovingian can provide certain perks (new shell, possible new skills) but the exile itself depending how advanced it is (or how old it is) is able to tamper with it's code. True there are limits, for example I have yet to see an Exile or Machine (with the exception of Smith but Ill get to that) fly. But we have examples now of Exiles going beyond their programming. The Twins come to mind , The Keymaker, Sati, The Trainman and more likely more Exiles go beyond the programming they were created with.

Machine programs loyal to the Architect however do not. An Agent for all its strength and skill will not change its code unless the Architect allows it. We saw the surprise on Neo's face in the movies when he faced off with three new Agents "huh....upgrades!" It lends me to believe that the Architect only creates new Agents and abilities when it is deemed necessary (Agent Pace for example).
About the only Agent that defied that arrangement was Smith.Not only was he able to tamper with his own code but also able to "steal" codes and abilities from other programs. He couldn't do this as an Agent , but as an Exile it was possible.

"Because of you I've changed, unplugged, a new man, so to speak like you apparently free."

I think the Machines see in Sati what they are not, she has gone beyond the programming of most or possibly any Exile or Machine. I think manipulating the weather patterns is just the beginning.





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That only happened with smith because something in Neo had been overwritten or copied onto smith which made him Neo's Opposite, Smiths abilities came from the equation trying to balance itself out so trying to compare that with an exile altering it's own code is a little hard. I think that when a program is created like a normal computer you can install programs within so that they can do a particular job, So Sati may have had a program installed that allowed her to control the sun.



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pack-hunter wrote:
That only happened with smith because something in Neo had been overwritten or copied onto smith which made him Neo's Opposite, Smiths abilities came from the equation trying to balance itself out so trying to compare that with an exile altering it's own code is a little hard. I think that when a program is created like a normal computer you can install programs within so that they can do a particular job, So Sati may have had a program installed that allowed her to control the sun.

Well in essence I suppose you can say that Smith was infused with that ability to copy himself due to Neo , but the possibility also  exists that Sati's  "power" could have been the combined elements of her parents (much like the way human genes work?).

As far as Smith gaining all those handy abilities due to Neo isn't necessarily accurate. The three glaring examples I can see is first when he infused with Seraph, before he was having a tough time trying to beat Neo in the park, later in the city he was pretty much even in fighting skill. With Sati he was able to manipulate the weather (hence the real bad storm at the end SMILEY ) and with the Oracle again at the last fight he knew how the fight would end (although  it could be said that Oracle , knowing what was going to happen  left that last revelation  as sort of a "trap", when Smith was trying to recollect what was going to happen before he "copied" Neo).



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Just skimmed this thread, but here is what I thought/think:

Sati is good at fixing the sky and sunsets/sunrises. This will somehow be relevant to the Real world. Similar to Neo, her powers can cross from the Matrix to the Real. She can't do it yet, which is why the Oracle is "guiding" her like she guided Neo.

"But she's a program, she can't affect the Real."

Well, Neo was human and he affected the Matrix program and robots in the Real, so, c'mon, this is fiction.

Anyhow, if Rarebit and Sir Paul just skip to the part where Sati gets a new shell, adult, we can enjoy her new RSI and involvment in the story. Maybe she'll be hot like Pace or Ookami, too.




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We have been made aware by comments by Malphas in an archive that the belief is that Sati's ingestion of cookies baked by The Oracle contains certain elements of her code or programs written by her.... could this 'installation' be the cause of Sati's new found abilities? Did The Oracle provide Sati with a purpose, to allow her to be safe from deletion?

Message edited by Croesis on 11/08/2007 15:44:03.
 
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