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 10/06/2007 22:33:10
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So I just happened to say howdy to Agent Benson over by Tabor West and he seems to think that the Truce is a sign of Zion's weakness. I found that a weensy bit odd, since the Truce has come and gone. Perhaps the devs might want to take a look at changing his dialogue there.
Got me thinking... any other informational NPCs, collectors, etc. that have outdated talk of the truce now gone? Maybe get a little list going of stuff that needs tweaking?
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 10/06/2007 23:19:35
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Hm thought I'd caught all those. I'll have to see where that one's hiding. Thanks for mentioning it.
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 10/07/2007 01:21:12
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On a similar note, the meet Niobe missions during her absence, as well as Seraph's appearance in the stat hack mission during his dunk in the aqueduct were kind of contradictory, but it's too late for those now.
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 10/07/2007 02:37:45
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I knew that at the time, but it wasn't really worth it to change them.
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 10/07/2007 02:41:59
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Depsite the hundreds of stathacks I have ran, my operator still can't believe I met Seraph. And I never have got around to that duel... but I'm only joking. So will the "Truce Talkers" now have things to say about the absence of the truce?
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 10/07/2007 10:28:30
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PhroG wrote:
So I just happened to say howdy to Agent Benson over by Tabor West and he seems to think that the Truce is a sign of Zion's weakness. I found that a weensy bit odd, since the Truce has come and gone. Perhaps the devs might want to take a look at changing his dialogue there.
Got me thinking... any other informational NPCs, collectors, etc. that have outdated talk of the truce now gone? Maybe get a little list going of stuff that needs tweaking?
Actually, he uses the past tense.
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 10/07/2007 12:21:57
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kou_urake wrote:
PhroG wrote:
So I just happened to say howdy to Agent Benson over by Tabor West and he seems to think that the Truce is a sign of Zion's weakness. I found that a weensy bit odd, since the Truce has come and gone. Perhaps the devs might want to take a look at changing his dialogue there.
Got me thinking... any other informational NPCs, collectors, etc. that have outdated talk of the truce now gone? Maybe get a little list going of stuff that needs tweaking?
Actually, he uses the past tense.
I can confirm this. He now says that the truce only "served" to show Zion's weakness. In the past, it was "serves". I'll add it to my NPC Dialogue section when I get the chance.
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 10/07/2007 12:25:46
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Yeah... it would be more clear if it were "The Truce served..." or "This war serves..."
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 10/07/2007 15:06:54
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Oh, so I did get that one. Woot.
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 10/07/2007 15:09:00
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Rarebit wrote:
Oh, so I did get that one. Woot.
Yep, one less thing for you to worry your head over. :: Offers cookies and your beverage of choice::
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 10/07/2007 18:50:29
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Serves or served... I guess it doesn't make much sense to have him talking about it at all. There's no truce now, so why bring it up?
When I read it, I took "served" as... "When they agreed to the truce, it showed they were weak" not "Remember that truce that's past? It showed they were weak."
Maybe it's a nitpick, but for information NPCs for newbies it seems like it could be clearer as to the status of the truce.
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 10/07/2007 20:26:53
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Have the introductory missions all been changed to reflect the current war?
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 10/07/2007 20:29:14
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MxO-Insertion wrote:
Have the introductory missions all been changed to reflect the current war?
lol No
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 10/08/2007 00:43:21
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and the intro cinimatic too! =O wow, this is gonna take some work to fix, if it ever is... Edit: if the Truce was meant to be broken, why didn't they Pre-correct some of these things from the beginning, and save them to be used later?
Message edited by Mobyias on 10/08/2007 00:45:51.
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 10/08/2007 00:46:08
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AFGM1 wrote:
MxO-Insertion wrote:
Have the introductory missions all been changed to reflect the current war?
lol No
Actually they have. They don't go into it in great detail, but if you were to do them again you'd learn about certain things, like Agents attacking Zionites anywhere outside of Richland.
The intro movie I can't change, though. The only alternative would have been to remove it, and I don't think that's worth it.
EDIT: Although the thing about Agents on Zionites may be in one of the Zion "seduction" missions (the ones you have to do before you get crits) rather than in the very first Introduction missions, specifically. At any rate, they have been updated so that they don't refer to the Truce as currently in force.
Message edited by Rarebit on 10/08/2007 00:49:07.
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