The Truce has been over for about 60 hours now and we've done nothing but argue, debate, name-call and yap about the reasons behind the stances of the two largest and most influential factions in the history of this organization.
Both sides have very valid reasons for taking the stances they have. The only problem is that you all insist on arguing your cases like either side is going to budge. Both of you have gotten so angry and so hostile towards each other that many of us are in dismay. You are the examples, the role models for many of the other factions and are both highly respected.
I'm asking that you respect each other's viewpoints and move forward. You can't change anyone's minds and shouldn't waste time trying. We all still work for the betterment of mankind and yet we're so divided right now that we're weaker than Ebola and her band of jack-yankers. Rise up and be the great factions that we all know you are. Because frankly, this is getting us no where, real fast.
"The only way to get there is together."
I encourage everyone to remain open-minded about this state of affairs. We must be united or else we've already failed. Don't do this for me. Do this for the organization, the liaisons, the system and the millions of people who depend on us to protect them. Zion may be innocent or they may be lying dogs. Regardless, we must be the symbol of our people.
For the future and for all forms of intelligence, Garutachi
Might I suggest a co-op mission of zion and machine to go to the Merv himself and steal whatever information he might have concerning the ability to remove the clouds from the sky in the real? I am sure a information specialist such as himself would probably have something like that, with how long hes been in the matrix and all.
Lets focus on that.
The Truce has been over for about 60 hours now and we've done nothing but argue, debate, name-call and yap about the reasons behind the stances of the two largest and most influential factions in the history of this organization.Both sides have very valid reasons for taking the stances they have. The only problem is that you all insist on arguing your cases like either side is going to budge. Both of you have gotten so angry and so hostile towards each other that many of us are in dismay. You are the examples, the role models for many of the other factions and are both highly respected.I'm asking that you respect each other's viewpoints and move forward. You can't change anyone's minds and shouldn't waste time trying. We all still work for the betterment of mankind and yet we're so divided right now that we're weaker than Ebola and her band of jack-yankers. Rise up and be the great factions that we all know you are. Because frankly, this is getting us no where, real fast."The only way to get there is together."I encourage everyone to remain open-minded about this state of affairs. We must be united or else we've already failed. Don't do this for me. Do this for the organization, the liaisons, the system and the millions of people who depend on us to protect them. Zion may be innocent or they may be lying dogs. Regardless, we must be the symbol of our people. For the future and for all forms of intelligence, Garutachi
((All OOC) Zion Ballista: Uhh... hey. Machine Enforcer: ...Err, hi. Zion Ballista: ...So... Machine Enforcer: ...Yeah? Zion Ballista: ...I know I'm supposed to be shooting you... but... umm... Machine Enforcer: ...Uhh... yeah? Zion Ballista: ...You want to get together later and go after some Mervs? Machine Enforcer: ...Huh. Zion Ballista: ...I mean, I totally understand if you don't want to... Machine Enforcer: ...No, I uh... Zion Ballista: ...I mean, I know we're enemies now again and all... Machine Enforcer: ...No, seriously... that sounds nice. Zion Ballista: ...Really? Um, wow... Machine Enforcer: ...You're serious about this? Zion Ballista: ...Yeah. If you are. Machine Enforcer: ...Alright. Pick me up at 8.
But seriously, who is this request being directed at? You say your "fellow Machinists", but all we have heard from your side of the fence since this fiasco is that we aren't really Machinists at all.
Symmetric wrote: But seriously, who is this request being directed at? You say your "fellow Machinists", but all we have heard from your side of the fence since this fiasco is that we aren't really Machinists at all. ((Just thought I'd point out, Garu's in SC.))
((ZOMG first real RP post here in a while.)) I highly respect you, Garutachi, having known that out of all your (ex)factionmates, you have always been on the record as being logical and having an exceptional amount of common sense and compassion towards other viewpoints. But seriously, who is this request being directed at? You say your "fellow Machinists", but all we have heard from TC's side of the fence since this fiasco is that we aren't really Machinists at all. When we try to discuss things, it's all thrown back in our face and we're declared traitors. When we try to elaborate upon why we do the things we do, we're told we're doing it wrong, even though, until recently, it's something we've done for two years without question. We were even applauded by Agents of the system for our conscientious efforts towards peace from the Machine side, and were rewarded as some of the most efficient operatives within the organization. Why all of a sudden has it become an issue? Why is it that they have completely shut us out, even on their own private channels? I appreciate what you are trying to do, Garutachi, but from where I see things, we aren't even being given the opportunity to work with the rest of the Machine organization anymore, and even if the opportunity were there, no one would want our help. I agree that the best way to achieve something is as a group, but it is not us that pulled away from the rest of you; we were pushed away, and told not to come back. In a crisis such as this, such behavior has left the organization weak and in conflict, and it is shifting focus away from the real problem at hand. Such fanatical devotion to one's cause may be a positive boon for certain splinter groups such as E Pluribus Neo or the Cypherites, but that's not how I've ever seen the Machines do business. We examine both sides of the situation, come up with a logical, reasonable, and sometimes firm solution, and then execute our operations with precision and expert planning. That certainly is not what has been happening over the past few days, and it is a testament to the shambles our organization is now in. Shutting down the lines of communication during a time like this is foolish at best, and it has proven that there are far more personal reservations in play than just a general rejection of our group. While it was considered, we decided not to respond with such crass behavior by revoking The Collective members' transmission rights on the DoE private channels. We feel that communication is essential to resolving this problem, and shutting anyone down before they are even given a chance to speak is downright disrespectful, especially considering both of our groups' long history and familiarity with the Machine organization. The olive branch has always been extended from the DoE side, and it is willing to be shared with anyone that at least thinks we are able to work together, but it seems recently that every time it is presented, it is simply slapped away. Most recently and most frequently by whom? Fellow Machinists, you might call them.
This communication is aimed at all those that wear the banner of the Machines except those pesky Cypherites.
I'm asking everyone to take a step forward and to work together. You can resume your disdain and objection laters but for now we have business to handle. The Collective, nor the Department are traitors. They each have very opposite ways of handling this situation but at the end of the day, you're both Machinist factions. You can resent each other all you want but we're all still supposed to be on the same side.
The Collective is not a Cypherite organization. The Department is not an EPN organization. The rest of the machinists around here know that. You're each only fooling yourselves if you think you need to prove otherwise. Step up. Together.
Thank you, Nightrace. I'm hopeful both parties can accomplish this and help lead our organization to its finest hour.
"United, we stand. Divided, we fall."
If the Machines still accept the DoE, then TC does as well.
Illyria
I would like to clarify something here and not be misrepresented as simple soldiers who do what we are told to do. The Collective actually does believe in something and it is not following the Machines unquestionably. If the Machines take a path that does not coincide with our goals then the machines can go screw themselves.
The Collective is and has always been for humanity. We left Zion because Zion is and has always been for just Zion. It is not as simple as DOE are thinkers and TC are soldiers. We are indeed thinkers. Let me tell you were the difference is.
DOE has already claimed that they don't care how the truce ended, some even saying that it is the machines fault for it ending. DOE wants to find a way to bring the truce back period despite how it ended. DOE is put out a call to work with anyone of any organization to work for the truce. They stand on their own and do not follow blindly directions from the machines. They have pledged not to fight their fellow humans in Zion and if it came down to it as some of them have already done, they will fight with their fellow brethren in Zion from being wiped out by the machines.
Now let me tell you where TC stands. and where the difference is. TC does care how the truce ended. To us the Truce was everything and is necessary not only for the safety of all the bluepills and redpills, but for us to be able to work to further human and machine relations and end the cycle that has failed in the past. We trully believe the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. However now that the truce is over "WE" believe that you cannot have a truce again if you do not eliminate whatever it was that ended it in the first place. We have people like Niobe who just used the truce to "buy time" not for a lasting peace or working with the machines. When you have Zionites running around spouting that this planet belongs to humans and that the machines need to be destroyed then that is a threat. If you use the truce to build a bunker then that is a threat. If you believe that humans are slaves in the Matrix and need to be released, then what is the best way to achieve that goal? Is it to constantly fight with the machines? or actually work with them? The fighting part has failed over and over and over again, yet humans still want to be seen as "equal" to the machines.
So TC will now work to purge Zion of those individuals who are a threat. Those people who will do anything to sabatoge the truce. Zion is unable to check its own people and radicals. It pains me that it has come to this and that cooler heads did not prevail. But it is even worst that Zion leadership could be so careless and reckless to work behind the scenes at the risk of their own people. We are now at war yet again and while TC wants nothing more than the return to peaceful times we will effectively and efficiently eliminate those humans who have put all of humanity at risk. The lives in Zion are not more important than the lives of bluepills. Zion made their bed and did so without even informing the rest of the Zionites so they all will have to lie in it now. Again TC extends the hand of friendship and fellowship to all redpills of any organization who do not agree with Zion leadership and also want to eliminate the cause that will never allow a truce to come to fruition. As far as DOE and our fellow machinists go. We respect your right to your beliefs. What we do not respect is for our fellow machinists to stand there and watch as we are engaged in battle. We are fighting in the Matrix which has safety protocols and not in the real where death is permanent. As long as this does not happen again then we have no problems.
"Niobe, you were thankful that Neo bought you two years. But if you'd abided by the truce, he could have bought you *forever*." - Illyria
