[8.1.2] Continued extraction of humans will not be tolerated - Vector - 7/20/07

**Agent_Pace**

Operatives,

I would like to thank those involved in the successful elimination of a terrorist-run human extraction facility in Westview. Operatives Zunion and GlueVane led System forces to the facility, following the signal from tracer program planted in one of the target subjects. Resistance at the site was soon crushed.

With your assistance, operatives, we will continue to keep the System safe and secure for generations to come.

Efficientemente,

Agent Pace,
System Liaison

**GamiSB**

I'm confused. Is the system now no longer in danger by letting 1% of its population (thats 600k fyi) run around going crazy? Guess they fixed that whole "not accpeting the program" thing then.

**ZaneZavin**

Who ever said Zion was only allowed to free 1%?

**GamiSB**

The Machines, but thats also Mr. Sanders figures for how many want out thanks to the sublimital choice.

KaolinSlate

ZaneZavin wrote:

Who ever said Zion was only allowed to free 1%?

It's been said that 1% of the population will reject the simulation (aka, take the red pill) if given the choice to do so. Those are the ones that Zion has been unplugging before and after the formation of the Truce.

**Kemy**

GamiSB wrote:

The Machines, but thats also Mr. Sanders figures for how many want out thanks to the sublimital choice.

Before the truce:
1% Of the simulation rejected the system. I don't think it's stated anywhere how many Zion woke up.

During the truce:
Zion was allowed to free everyone they could. Again, I don't think it's mentioned somewhere if Zion only woke up 1%, or less, or more.

Now that the truce is over:
It's the same as before the truce. Zion is not allowed to wake up any blue. 1% still rejects the simulation.

**GamiSB**

Oh I know, just questioning the logic behind keeping people from freeing them as they do more harm inside then out.

**MetaLogic**

GamiSB wrote:

Oh I know, just questioning the logic behind keeping people from freeing them as they do more harm inside then out.

Because allowing Zion to free the bluepills without interventions from agents was part of the Truce. As long as Zion abided by the Truce, they were granted the privilege to awake the 1% without intervention. Now that the truce is over, agents and other machines program will intervene.

**GamiSB** · 07/23/2007 22:52:49

GamiSB wrote:

Oh I know, just questioning the logic behind keeping people from freeing them as they do more harm inside then out.

That last parts the key. Keeping people form freeing the 1% leaves them to roam around the city and either become aware and clue in others possibly outside the 1% or lead to what happend with Anome's mom.

**MetaLogic**

GamiSB wrote:

GamiSB wrote:
Oh I know, just questioning the logic behind keeping people from freeing them as they do more harm inside then out.
That last parts the key. Keeping people form freeing the 1% leaves them to roam and either become aware and not selfsubstantiate or lead to what happend to Anome's mom.

Hmm, maybe the machines are hoping that they can be future Machinist or Cypherite operative?

**GamiSB**

Don't think so. The Architect said "No more awakenings are to be allowed". Knowing his character and that of a Machine there is no fancy wording or hidden meanings in that. Every word is thought out and persaies in it's meaning. Thus it can logicaly be assumed that that means no more awakenings, period. Not by Zion or 01.

Although I've been wrong before so who knows, guess I'll just wait for an offical word from someone.

**MetaLogic**

GamiSB wrote:

Don't think so. The Architect said "No more awakenings are to be allowed". Knowing his character and that of a Machine there is no fancy wording or hidden meanings in that. Every word is thought out and persaies in it's meaning. Thus it can logicaly be assumed that that means no more awakenings, period. Not by Zion or 01.
Although I've been wrong before so who knows, guess I'll just wait for an offical word from someone.

Hmmm, looks like MegaCity's Insane Asylum will be getting more customers now then.

**ZaneZavin**

I mean, specifically. Do you have any proof of the machines stating "Zion was allowed to free 1%"? I know about 1% rejecting the simulation from the movie. It is my belief that Zion was allowed to free as many as they could under the truce. If they were only allowed to free 1% would it have made any sense for them to overwrite Cryptos?

This is the model of how things work numerically in my opinion.

I'm only going to refer to zion operatives, not freeborn. Say there are 100 operatives and 80% are assigned to awakenings. People would be freed at a pretty steady rate and there would be turnover caused by those freed operatives in turn freeing others. What I'm trying to say is that it would grow exponentially. (More freeing more, freeing more) The only factor to slow this down would be that at some point they would come up against minds that were too strongly cemented to the program.

**GamiSB**

Oracle: What about the others?
Architect: What others?
Oracle: The ones that want out.
Architect: Obviously, they will be freed.

Thats basicly the truce in a nutshell. Zion is allowed to free those that want out and the ones that want out are only (suposidly) apart of the 1%.

**MetaLogic**

ZaneZavin wrote:

I mean, specifically. Do you have any proof of the machines stating "Zion was allowed to free 1%"? I know about 1% rejecting the simulation from the movie. It is my belief that Zion was allowed to free as many as they could under the truce. If they were only allowed to free 1% would it have made any sense for them to overwrite Cryptos?

This is the model of how things work numerically in my opinion.

I'm only going to refer to zion operatives, not freeborn. Say there are 100 operatives and 80% are assigned to awakenings. People would be freed at a pretty steady rate and there would be turnover caused by those freed operatives in turn freeing others. What I'm trying to say is that it would grow exponentially. (More freeing more, freeing more) The only factor to slow this down would be that at some point they would come up against minds that were too strongly cemented to the program.

I think the "Zion can free the 1%" comes at the end of "Matrix: Revolution" where The Oracle and The Architect meet. The convo went like this.

Oracle:"What about the others?"
Architect: "What Others?"
Oracle: "The ones that want out."
Architect: "Obviously they will be freed."
Oracle: "I have your word?"
Arhitect: "What do you think I am, human?"