You can also try to get some solid arguments - or just stop speculating please. 

(( I like how I turned this into a discussion on global warming :p))

Burden of Proof. Look it up.

You claiming there is harm done or could be harm done means you have to prove its there not that we have to prove it isn't there.

But on that note the evidence is by far in favor of those saying there is not lasting affect. We have 2+ years where not even the testing site (01 construct) is affected. Lets not stop there though, lets compare it to other hacks that have gone on and the time it took to fix them.

Code Bombs, no lasting affects in the simulation after blowing and easily fixed by a reset of the area.
The Override hacks the Intruders used. They took out an entire district and the area was fixed up the next week.
Assassin's deterioration that corrupted the code around every monument in the system, fixed the week after his death.
Sleepwalker's hack, fixed over night!
Affects of Sati not being present in the Matrix over a course of...not sure on specifics but a long *CENSORED* time and brought the simulation almost to the point of collapse. Fixed over night.

All of those are a hundred times more deadly to the simulation and the areas they took place in you can't even tell it happened without knowing it did. Fixed up within a few days on average and your claiming that this one, although the Machines know it happens when it does, is some how eluding there systems to restore the simulation to how it was before it was hacked?

Yeah, that's really logical.

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You have no evidence that they cause any damage, longterm or shorterm.

Your point is moot.

Neoteny wrote:

You have no evidence that they cause any damage, longterm or shorterm.

Your point is moot.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, unlike yours my point is not moot. 

Well, despite the fact that I have learned the difference between code bombs and code pulses, what I wanted still hasn't been accomplished. Has EPN used the code bombs outside of the misguided, extreme members of the organization (even though the cypherites would like to believe that's everyone). If so, why would they do this? Isn't the point of E Pluribus Neo not just honoring and fighting for Neo's memory, but to give every bluepill the choice of awakening or staying asleep? That's what I thought, but maybe there's more than meets the eye like most things in life.

Well, despite the fact that I have learned the difference between code bombs and code pulses, what I wanted still hasn't been accomplished. Has EPN used the code bombs outside of the misguided, extreme members of the organization (even though the cypherites would like to believe that's everyone). If so, why would they do this? Isn't the point of E Pluribus Neo not just honoring and fighting for Neo's memory, but to give every bluepill the choice of awakening or staying asleep? That's what I thought, but maybe there's more than meets the eye like most things in life.

Answer is no. At its birth several over zealous members used them which started off the "EPN = Terrorist" BS. Then Taecross came along but several people skip over the fact that he left EPN before he went on his crusade.

No sane member who understands the ideals and mission of EPN has ever used Code Bombs because they understand that they hold no place in achieving EPN's mission. A point I constantly use to have to make to some was that this is E Pluribus Neo not E Pluribus Morpheus.

You have no evidence, other than the most basic visual observation of the simulation, that they don't cause damage. You point is also weak.

I'm simply attempting to prove that there is no damaging effect, which has been tried and proven true through the use of the devices. As for mere basic visual observation? The devices were tested many times during their development to ensure their function. As you have no evidence to the contrary, you have no basis for the argument that they cause damage.

By the logic you are using to argue that CPDs can cause damage, I could say that if you reply to this, that your head will explode. Oh, maybe it won't happen the first time you do it, but each time you post a message on this relay, maybe the chance that your head will explode will climb. Maybe it will happen in four years. Or five. Or eighty. Or maybe it will happen tomorrow morning. But *CENSORED* it, I'm telling you that your head might explode, so you'd better stop posting messages on this relay.

And I'm basing this all on absolutely nothing.

By the logic you are using to argue that CPDs can cause damage, I could say that if you reply to this, that your head will explode. Oh, maybe it won't happen the first time you do it, but each time you post a message on this relay, maybe the chance that your head will explode will climb. Maybe it will happen in four years. Or five. Or eighty. Or maybe it will happen tomorrow morning. But *CENSORED* it, I'm telling you that your head might explode, so you'd better stop posting messages on this relay.

And I'm basing this all on absolutely nothing.

Now you're just being absurd. Posting does makes no physiological or psychological entry into my head, in fact information flow when I post comes from my head. Opposite to that of a CPD which introduces dirty code and hacks into the Simulation. 

You're post, other than being simply amusing, would have been better thought out with a better Air of Reality if it was the forums at risk of exploding due to my continuous posting. I may actually believe that. You may base it on nothing to try to prove a point but if you think about it a little more, continuous use and posting on these forums does have the possibility of making them unstable.

However, seeing that there aren't thousands of people dependant on the forums to survive, I take the risk.

This whole argument is pointless. Everyone shut up. There's no proof either way. Maybe it does damage, maybe it doesn't. Nobody knows, and until Rarebit decides to write otherwise, nobody ever will.

Now, the most annoying thing about this is all the ignorant EPN members who still after two years do NOT know the difference between a code pulse and a code bomb and insist on calling CPD's bombs. Bombs explode. CPD's inject a flow of code into the simulation that brings back information. You can argue all you want that it LOOKS and SOUNDS like a bomb, but we all know the reason for that is that its appearance in game is just more recycled content because we don't have an animator to make a different effect.

Seriously, if you can't understand EPN history then why bother even being in the org if you're just going to run around with all these misconceptions.

Aside from the very beginning in a few crits, TaeCross and his followers (and actually he received his code bombs from the Cypherites, I had a fellow faction member who found out about it and defected because of it), and Eliseus and his crew if you want to go that far, code bombs have never been used. Period.

Code pulses have been used quite often however to obtain information such as where the Morphues sim would next appear, to get into constructs, etc. etc. And I actually suggested once that Kid offer one to Pepper in exchange for information. So she still has one that to my knowledge she hasn't used yet.

So honestly, EPN, get your facts straight.