Xamanek also showed up at a Merovingian-only meeting I held back on Regression. I don't have the log anymore, but we discussed the Assassin, and whether we should claim his work as our doing or not (this is after Morpheus was killed, but before it was revealed that the Assassin's mission was a Merovingian plot).
- Void
EndlessVoid wrote:
Xamanek also showed up at a Merovingian-only meeting I held back on Regression. I don't have the log anymore - Void
Xamanek also showed up at a Merovingian-only meeting I held back on Regression. I don't have the log anymore
monkeymanx8 wrote:
Rarebit wrote:Wright abs:"Compress" (metal meatwad?)"Signal Jamming" (AOE massive def res debuff)Anti-override prototype:orbiting gold code fxgives random of one imm: Accel, Decel, RunSo... Wright can drop Runtime bits too?
Rarebit wrote:
Wright abs:"Compress" (metal meatwad?)"Signal Jamming" (AOE massive def res debuff)Anti-override prototype:orbiting gold code fxgives random of one imm: Accel, Decel, Run
So... Wright can drop Runtime bits too?
Is Rare gone yet? I was just looking for a bit of confirmation on these notes, as I've never heard of Wright dropping a Runtime bit.
Mauser having jacks was the largest continuity error I made that I'm aware of to date. I assumed he had jacks when I wrote up the part about Wright getting into him, and in the Merv crit where Merv operatives investigate the sack of Zion, in which Mauser was caught on Sentinel cam sneaking through the rubble with Lock, Flood described the footage as showing a man with jacks in his skin, and both Flood and Malphas referred to Mauser as an "operative."Later, when I was re-watching the Colt/Mauser/Roland scenes in preparation for bringing Mauser (actually Wright) in as an actual game character, I finally noticed that he didn't have jacks in his film scenes. :o I don't think anyone had pointed it out on the forums. I did a stealth edit of the archived version of the mission, Merv 8.3.1, "Among the Missing," in May 2008, changing three lines: Flood 1, original:Ugh, now the General is uploading his dirty pictures to me... Yes, well... All I can make out from this is a tall, muscular, dark-skinned, and disgracefully dressed man with jacks in him stumbling through debris. I've certainly never seen him before; he can't be that important.Flood 1, revised:Ugh, now the General is uploading his dirty pictures to me... Yes, well... All I can make out from this is a tall, muscular, dark-skinned, and disgracefully dressed man stumbling through debris. I've certainly never seen him before; he can't be that important.Flood 2, original:It seems I can't count on competence from anyone; no, not you, [playername]--I gave up on you long ago. But usually Zion's systems work well enough to run a decent data query after you've hacked them. It's a sad state of affairs...Very well, I can see the way the wind is blowing. We'll try for what we need from the Machines; the jacks in his skin indicate that the man was an operative, and the Machines will have surveillance records of which Zionite ships were around the old city when they sacked it. That should narrow things down considerably.Flood 2, revised:It seems I can't count on competence from anyone; no, not you, [playername]--I gave up on you long ago. But usually Zion's systems work well enough to run a decent data query after you've hacked them. It's a sad state of affairs...Very well, I can see the way the wind is blowing. We'll try for what we need from the Machines; they'll have surveillance records of which Zionite ships were around the old city when they sacked it. That should narrow things down considerably.Malphas, original:... Machine records of ship movements around Zion at the time of its destruction were minutely precise. The human with Zion's Commander was a crew member of the Mjolnir II, also known as "The Hammer": a large hovercraft that crashed near the main gate of the city's dock, although the Machines do not record having inflicted significant damage on it themselves. According to our records, his operative name is "Mauser."Malphas, revised:... Machine records of ship movements around Zion at the time of its destruction were minutely precise. The human with Zion's Commander was a crew member of the Mjolnir II, also known as "The Hammer": a large hovercraft that crashed near the main gate of the city's dock, although the Machines do not record having inflicted significant damage on it themselves. According to our records, his name is "Mauser."After that fix, Mauser showed up in the Matrix, and a lot of the story characters took great enjoyment in pointing out that he didn't have jacks. In the initial shock of realizing that he didn't have jacks, after I'd thought he had and included it in that one chapter 8 Merv crit, I was worried that it ruined the Wright-in-Mauser story. But a jack is merely a physical interface that facilitates an electrical current, and in the massive short in the Mjolnir II's jack-in systems caused by the simultaneous viral destruction of Zion's systems, to which the Mjolnir II was connected, and the entry of Wright's consciousness into their ship, the intensity of current involved could have just as well have conducted through human flesh, which isn't all that bad a conductor anyway. Whew. >_> While I'm not at all pleased that I made the error initially and had to revise the mission text, in the end I think I like her going into someone without holes better, since it's more unexpected...at least, it certainly isn't something I'd have thought of if I hadn't made that mistake and then had to fix it.The way that Wright's end came about ended up making it more difficult to have someone in the story give the full explanation for the Wright/Mauser sequences; Wright ended up being a much more secretive character than I'd imagined initially, and she wasn't about to offer up the explanation, so I would have had to have found ways to have people find clues that would eventually piece it together--could have been very long running as a backstory puzzle, if I'd ended up doing it that way. Wright had covered her tracks by completely incinerating Mauser's body when she (still in Mauser's body) hoverjacked Carlyne, rode his Oligarch interface into the Matrix, and let his ship crash on the surface.
Mauser having jacks was the largest continuity error I made that I'm aware of to date. I assumed he had jacks when I wrote up the part about Wright getting into him, and in the Merv crit where Merv operatives investigate the sack of Zion, in which Mauser was caught on Sentinel cam sneaking through the rubble with Lock, Flood described the footage as showing a man with jacks in his skin, and both Flood and Malphas referred to Mauser as an "operative."
Later, when I was re-watching the Colt/Mauser/Roland scenes in preparation for bringing Mauser (actually Wright) in as an actual game character, I finally noticed that he didn't have jacks in his film scenes. :o I don't think anyone had pointed it out on the forums. I did a stealth edit of the archived version of the mission, Merv 8.3.1, "Among the Missing," in May 2008, changing three lines:
Flood 1, original:Ugh, now the General is uploading his dirty pictures to me... Yes, well... All I can make out from this is a tall, muscular, dark-skinned, and disgracefully dressed man with jacks in him stumbling through debris. I've certainly never seen him before; he can't be that important.Flood 1, revised:Ugh, now the General is uploading his dirty pictures to me... Yes, well... All I can make out from this is a tall, muscular, dark-skinned, and disgracefully dressed man stumbling through debris. I've certainly never seen him before; he can't be that important.Flood 2, original:It seems I can't count on competence from anyone; no, not you, [playername]--I gave up on you long ago. But usually Zion's systems work well enough to run a decent data query after you've hacked them. It's a sad state of affairs...Very well, I can see the way the wind is blowing. We'll try for what we need from the Machines; the jacks in his skin indicate that the man was an operative, and the Machines will have surveillance records of which Zionite ships were around the old city when they sacked it. That should narrow things down considerably.Flood 2, revised:It seems I can't count on competence from anyone; no, not you, [playername]--I gave up on you long ago. But usually Zion's systems work well enough to run a decent data query after you've hacked them. It's a sad state of affairs...Very well, I can see the way the wind is blowing. We'll try for what we need from the Machines; they'll have surveillance records of which Zionite ships were around the old city when they sacked it. That should narrow things down considerably.Malphas, original:... Machine records of ship movements around Zion at the time of its destruction were minutely precise. The human with Zion's Commander was a crew member of the Mjolnir II, also known as "The Hammer": a large hovercraft that crashed near the main gate of the city's dock, although the Machines do not record having inflicted significant damage on it themselves. According to our records, his operative name is "Mauser."Malphas, revised:... Machine records of ship movements around Zion at the time of its destruction were minutely precise. The human with Zion's Commander was a crew member of the Mjolnir II, also known as "The Hammer": a large hovercraft that crashed near the main gate of the city's dock, although the Machines do not record having inflicted significant damage on it themselves. According to our records, his name is "Mauser."
After that fix, Mauser showed up in the Matrix, and a lot of the story characters took great enjoyment in pointing out that he didn't have jacks. In the initial shock of realizing that he didn't have jacks, after I'd thought he had and included it in that one chapter 8 Merv crit, I was worried that it ruined the Wright-in-Mauser story. But a jack is merely a physical interface that facilitates an electrical current, and in the massive short in the Mjolnir II's jack-in systems caused by the simultaneous viral destruction of Zion's systems, to which the Mjolnir II was connected, and the entry of Wright's consciousness into their ship, the intensity of current involved could have just as well have conducted through human flesh, which isn't all that bad a conductor anyway. Whew. >_> While I'm not at all pleased that I made the error initially and had to revise the mission text, in the end I think I like her going into someone without holes better, since it's more unexpected...at least, it certainly isn't something I'd have thought of if I hadn't made that mistake and then had to fix it.
The way that Wright's end came about ended up making it more difficult to have someone in the story give the full explanation for the Wright/Mauser sequences; Wright ended up being a much more secretive character than I'd imagined initially, and she wasn't about to offer up the explanation, so I would have had to have found ways to have people find clues that would eventually piece it together--could have been very long running as a backstory puzzle, if I'd ended up doing it that way. Wright had covered her tracks by completely incinerating Mauser's body when she (still in Mauser's body) hoverjacked Carlyne, rode his Oligarch interface into the Matrix, and let his ship crash on the surface.
Seriously, this is the crap he's been forcing down your throats since Chadwick left? I'm glad I haven't bothered to get caught up.
Foxxdie wrote:
Rarebit wrote:Mauser having jacks was the largest continuity error I made that I'm aware of to date. I assumed he had jacks when I wrote up the part about Wright getting into him, and in the Merv crit where Merv operatives investigate the sack of Zion, in which Mauser was caught on Sentinel cam sneaking through the rubble with Lock, Flood described the footage as showing a man with jacks in his skin, and both Flood and Malphas referred to Mauser as an "operative."Later, when I was re-watching the Colt/Mauser/Roland scenes in preparation for bringing Mauser (actually Wright) in as an actual game character, I finally noticed that he didn't have jacks in his film scenes. :o I don't think anyone had pointed it out on the forums. I did a stealth edit of the archived version of the mission, Merv 8.3.1, "Among the Missing," in May 2008, changing three lines: Flood 1, original:Ugh, now the General is uploading his dirty pictures to me... Yes, well... All I can make out from this is a tall, muscular, dark-skinned, and disgracefully dressed man with jacks in him stumbling through debris. I've certainly never seen him before; he can't be that important.Flood 1, revised:Ugh, now the General is uploading his dirty pictures to me... Yes, well... All I can make out from this is a tall, muscular, dark-skinned, and disgracefully dressed man stumbling through debris. I've certainly never seen him before; he can't be that important.Flood 2, original:It seems I can't count on competence from anyone; no, not you, [playername]--I gave up on you long ago. But usually Zion's systems work well enough to run a decent data query after you've hacked them. It's a sad state of affairs...Very well, I can see the way the wind is blowing. We'll try for what we need from the Machines; the jacks in his skin indicate that the man was an operative, and the Machines will have surveillance records of which Zionite ships were around the old city when they sacked it. That should narrow things down considerably.Flood 2, revised:It seems I can't count on competence from anyone; no, not you, [playername]--I gave up on you long ago. But usually Zion's systems work well enough to run a decent data query after you've hacked them. It's a sad state of affairs...Very well, I can see the way the wind is blowing. We'll try for what we need from the Machines; they'll have surveillance records of which Zionite ships were around the old city when they sacked it. That should narrow things down considerably.Malphas, original:... Machine records of ship movements around Zion at the time of its destruction were minutely precise. The human with Zion's Commander was a crew member of the Mjolnir II, also known as "The Hammer": a large hovercraft that crashed near the main gate of the city's dock, although the Machines do not record having inflicted significant damage on it themselves. According to our records, his operative name is "Mauser."Malphas, revised:... Machine records of ship movements around Zion at the time of its destruction were minutely precise. The human with Zion's Commander was a crew member of the Mjolnir II, also known as "The Hammer": a large hovercraft that crashed near the main gate of the city's dock, although the Machines do not record having inflicted significant damage on it themselves. According to our records, his name is "Mauser."After that fix, Mauser showed up in the Matrix, and a lot of the story characters took great enjoyment in pointing out that he didn't have jacks. In the initial shock of realizing that he didn't have jacks, after I'd thought he had and included it in that one chapter 8 Merv crit, I was worried that it ruined the Wright-in-Mauser story. But a jack is merely a physical interface that facilitates an electrical current, and in the massive short in the Mjolnir II's jack-in systems caused by the simultaneous viral destruction of Zion's systems, to which the Mjolnir II was connected, and the entry of Wright's consciousness into their ship, the intensity of current involved could have just as well have conducted through human flesh, which isn't all that bad a conductor anyway. Whew. >_> While I'm not at all pleased that I made the error initially and had to revise the mission text, in the end I think I like her going into someone without holes better, since it's more unexpected...at least, it certainly isn't something I'd have thought of if I hadn't made that mistake and then had to fix it.The way that Wright's end came about ended up making it more difficult to have someone in the story give the full explanation for the Wright/Mauser sequences; Wright ended up being a much more secretive character than I'd imagined initially, and she wasn't about to offer up the explanation, so I would have had to have found ways to have people find clues that would eventually piece it together--could have been very long running as a backstory puzzle, if I'd ended up doing it that way. Wright had covered her tracks by completely incinerating Mauser's body when she (still in Mauser's body) hoverjacked Carlyne, rode his Oligarch interface into the Matrix, and let his ship crash on the surface. Seriously, this is the crap he's been forcing down your throats since Chadwick left? I'm glad I haven't bothered to get caught up.
Your disrespect for the current playerbase of this game in a number of these threads is truly amazing. For some of us, the Rarebit story is what we had and enjoyed. A little consideration for those who didn't get to experience the game back in 2005 would be appreciated. Maybe the time has come for you to leave us in peace because the game will never live up to your expectations and all you're doing is creating enemies and ill will. Let MXO live, in whatever form it has to take now.
Yeah, just like the Pew Pew lazorz.. oh wait, that was Chadwick wasn't it..
Admitedly some of Rare's storyline is not brilliant, but considering he only had Chadwicks outline and an even briefer full storyline outline (Rare said that the Trinity/Neo thing was ok'd early on in MxO) of the story to follow and probably noone to bounce ideas for fleshing out the story off, he didn't do too bad at all. As for the Mauser error.. honest mistake is honest, and the workaround wasn't beyond the realms of Sci-Fi, which is handy considering that Sci-Fi is the basis for the entire franchise.
Can I have ur stuff?
I seriously find myself wishing that I could spawn a series of tangential universes where each person thats been p**sing all over the MxO storyline could be transported back in time and become lead dev, and be responsible for fleshing out the story.
Maybe after they wrote THEIR story, and then had half the community cr*p all over it, they'd get some sense of humility about the challenge of being the storywriter for a game people are obsessed about.
Take it somewhere else Foxx, preferably the toilet...
psilody wrote:
I seriously find myself wishing that I could spawn a series of tangential universes where each person thats been p**sing all over the MxO storyline could be transported back in time and become lead dev, and be responsible for fleshing out the story.Maybe after they wrote THEIR story, and then had half the community cr*p all over it, they'd get some sense of humility about the challenge of being the storywriter for a game people are obsessed about.Take it somewhere else Foxx, preferably the toilet...
No offense, dude, but do you realize that this is a service that we were paying our developers to do? I mean, some of you guys treat it as if this is some favor they're doing for us. No, it's a service we pay for.
Like you've never gone to a restaurant, gotten a meal that wasn't to your liking or gotten bad service and complained about it?
Customer: "Hey, I asked to hold the sauce."Waiter: "You think it's so easy to cook a meal!? Well if you're so smart, why don't you go and cook it yourself?!"
Fen wrote:
No offense, dude, but do you realize that this is a service that we were paying our developers to do? I mean, some of you guys treat it as if this is some favor they're doing for us. No, it's a service we pay for.Like you've never gone to a restaurant, gotten a meal that wasn't to your liking or gotten bad service and complained about it?Customer: "Hey, I asked to hold the sauce."Waiter: "You think it's so easy to cook a meal!? Well if you're so smart, why don't you go and cook it yourself?!"
Actually, we pay to access the game, our subscriptions do not guarantee continuing storyline (either good or poor, depending on users viewpoint, as is immediatly evident) or additional content. If anyone doesn't like it, they don't have to pay/play. Simple really.
Now if the servers were inaccessible for more than the necessary time for maintenance, or if some funtionality of the game was broken and not repaired promptly etc. Then you can complain about the service. By not continuing the story they lose custom, but thats their choice to make.
Croesis wrote:
Fen wrote:Like you've never gone to a restaurant, gotten a meal that wasn't to your liking or gotten bad service and complained about it?Customer: "Hey, I asked to hold the sauce."Waiter: "You think it's so easy to cook a meal!? Well if you're so smart, why don't you go and cook it yourself?!"Actually, if this happened at a restaurant, I would politely ask the waiter to send it back.I would give the waiter and the cook the benefit of the doubt. Have you seriously NEVER made a f'n mistake in your life? Who ARE you people? I suppose since you all are perfect, that would justify you belittling and berating the server, the cook, the whole establishment for RUINING YOUR LIFE by bringing you a meal that had sauce. Maybe you'd even have a case to sue them or something...Actually, we pay to access the game, our subscriptions do not guarantee continuing storyline (either good or poor, depending on users viewpoint, as is immediatly evident) or additional content. If anyone doesn't like it, they don't have to pay/play. Simple really.Now if the servers were inaccessible for more than the necessary time for maintenance, or if some funtionality of the game was broken and not repaired promptly etc. Then you can complain about the service. By not continuing the story they lose custom, but thats their choice to make.
Like you've never gone to a restaurant, gotten a meal that wasn't to your liking or gotten bad service and complained about it?Customer: "Hey, I asked to hold the sauce."Waiter: "You think it's so easy to cook a meal!? Well if you're so smart, why don't you go and cook it yourself?!"Actually, if this happened at a restaurant, I would politely ask the waiter to send it back.I would give the waiter and the cook the benefit of the doubt. Have you seriously NEVER made a f'n mistake in your life? Who ARE you people? I suppose since you all are perfect, that would justify you belittling and berating the server, the cook, the whole establishment for RUINING YOUR LIFE by bringing you a meal that had sauce. Maybe you'd even have a case to sue them or something...
Actually, if this happened at a restaurant, I would politely ask the waiter to send it back.
I would give the waiter and the cook the benefit of the doubt. Have you seriously NEVER made a f'n mistake in your life? Who ARE you people? I suppose since you all are perfect, that would justify you belittling and berating the server, the cook, the whole establishment for RUINING YOUR LIFE by bringing you a meal that had sauce. Maybe you'd even have a case to sue them or something...
And what Croesis said. I'm sure theres nowhere that our subscription fees demand a storyline, let alone one with every detail in it perfect to the satisfaction of every single player.
Anyone, I'm sorry if I'm a little sick of every thread on the story being hijacked by haters. I've never said that I agree with everything Rare did, every element of the story, etc. But he was just a human being, the last Dev we had, and I'm sure all the negative feedback from the playerbase made it pretty easy to walk away from this game.
So why don't you guys all go write up your amazing edit of the MxO story and publish it. I'm sure you'll feel great too when half the community sh*t's all over it.
Economics 101:
Money is exchanged for goods and services.
In a marketplace, if Vendor A is selling poor services for too high a price; where Vendors B though Z are selling appropriare services for a reasonable and fair price; it is fair to ask Vendor A how he justifies his fee when the services are far substandard to all the other vendors in the marketplace. If he doesn't give a good justification, then it should not be unexpected if Vendor A goes out of business.
We are asking Vendor A to justify his fee. Nothing wrong with that. If he can't justify it, he should lower it, at the very least.
Anyone, I'm sorry if I'm a little sick of every thread on the story being hijacked by haters. I've never said that I agree with everything Rare did, every element of the story, etc. But he was just a human being, the last Dev we had, and I'm sure all the negative feedback from the playerbase made it pretty easy to walk away from this game.So why don't you guys all go write up your amazing edit of the MxO story and publish it. I'm sure you'll feel great too when half the community sh*t's all over it.
Not our job. I pay X for Y services. If I have to do it myself, I shouldn't be charged full price. End of story.
Fen wrote:No offense, dude, but do you realize that this is a service that we were paying our developers to do? I mean, some of you guys treat it as if this is some favor they're doing for us. No, it's a service we pay for.Like you've never gone to a restaurant, gotten a meal that wasn't to your liking or gotten bad service and complained about it?Customer: "Hey, I asked to hold the sauce."Waiter: "You think it's so easy to cook a meal!? Well if you're so smart, why don't you go and cook it yourself?!"Actually, we pay to access the game, our subscriptions do not guarantee continuing storyline (either good or poor, depending on users viewpoint, as is immediatly evident) or additional content. If anyone doesn't like it, they don't have to pay/play. Simple really.Now if the servers were inaccessible for more than the necessary time for maintenance, or if some funtionality of the game was broken and not repaired promptly etc. Then you can complain about the service. By not continuing the story they lose custom, but thats their choice to make.
Maybe that's what you pay for and that's what you're content with. But it sure as hell ain't what I'm paying for.
Villemar_MxO wrote:
psilody wrote: Anyone, I'm sorry if I'm a little sick of every thread on the story being hijacked by haters. I've never said that I agree with everything Rare did, every element of the story, etc. But he was just a human being, the last Dev we had, and I'm sure all the negative feedback from the playerbase made it pretty easy to walk away from this game.So why don't you guys all go write up your amazing edit of the MxO story and publish it. I'm sure you'll feel great too when half the community sh*t's all over it.Not our job. I pay X for Y services. If I have to do it myself, I shouldn't be charged full price. End of story.
I agree with both your posts, Villemar.
psilody's really off the deep end here. He keeps taking criticism for hate.
I do not hate Rarebit. I don't care for his story, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the work he put in for us.
However, since I'm paying for a service, I have the right to question it if it doesn't meet my expectations. If you have ever been in any position of sales, you would know that the goal of customer service is to try and exceed their expectations. Something that SOE has not done, even remotely so.
psilody... seriously, dude. You're the one that needs to calm down and take a chill pill. It's hard to carry on a civil discussion with you flipping out and screaming text in our faces.
And you never addressed my point to begin with. All you've done is flame and insult. *shrug*
