Rebooting the Simulation

**Zerotolerance** · 10/18/2007 14:31:58

By this point is there far too much at stake to consider the option that the Architect eluded to by killing off all humans and resorting to alternative power sources? If that option ever truly existed, of course.

I think since Neo's deal for peace had ended, we should pretty much go back to resetting the simulation as was done before. If Neo truly IS still alive or in Machine custody, they could use him to choose those who would rebuild Zion. All in all, there's got to be a way they can destroy New Zion and start fresh. Screw all the bull. Zero tolerance. Reset and be done with it?

As an afterthought: The fact that some programs/machines keep the humans alive might show strategy and planning ahead in some regards, but I think it also displays a certain compassion that they wouldn't just eliminate all the humans.

**Mindsweep**

So Eliminate, Destroy and Reset the simulation is your bid on what we should do? I am very glad that you not our president then. Were is the willing to fight for what you believe? Were is the human feeling? Try to think of what you really did decide to do with humanity, if we follow your suggestion?

**Procurator**

It's the fact that the Machines haven't reverted to the old Cycle that proves they want to give humanity a chance, or at least the more sensible subset of humanity, viz. the Machinists.

**Zerotolerance**

Mindsweep wrote:

So Eliminate, Destroy and Reset the simulation is your bid on what we should do? I am very glad that you not our president then. Were is the willing to fight for what you believe? Were is the human feeling? Try to think of what you really did decide to do with humanity, if we follow your suggestion?

I'd start with you.

I'm looking at it through the Machines' perspective. Self-preservation would be to destroy the things that threaten you. Hence the reason why Zion was destroyed. New Zion shows that the humans don't want peace. They want subterfuge. The only way to attack subterfuge is through counter-subterfuge or by hammering at it hard until it is destroyed.

**CrimsonKiller01**

I think the reason why the Matrix hasn't "re-set" is because something different happened here. Consider the meeting with Neo and the Architect. In that meeting the Architect compared Neo with the five previous versions of the One. Most notably the comparisons ranged from how fast he came to conclusions to his singled-out love for one person and not just humanity as a whole, and here's the kicker. All previous versions of the One chose the door that would save Zion and reset the Matrix, Neo chose the door to save Trinity (and a thought came to mind as i wrote this, perhaps the other previous versions of the One never had a second door to choose from as they had no significant other...).

I think to the Machines, the Architect in particular this was an interesting choice, certainly a new avenue of reason the Architect hadn't suspected. I always wondered when the Architect spoke his last words telling Neo about hope being the quintessential human delusion wasn't so much as goading, or a statement but in his own way to encourage Neo with that veiled challenge.

So events changed from the previous ones and when Neo proposed a truce, I could see why the Machines were ready to accept it (well provided Neo could take care of that pesky "Smith problem

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Now we stand as a result of of the truce that Neo made, the situation is vastly different in where Zion was not utterly destroyed, before the truce was broken people who wanted to be awakened, could. And even though the truce doesn't exist anymore the possibilities that didn't exist before are now all too real.

TheShickle

Procurator wrote:

It's the fact that the Machines haven't reverted to the old Cycle that proves they want to give humanity a chance, or at least the more sensible subset of humanity, viz. the Machinists.

Possibly, or The Architect finally realized that over time the "one" will grow along with his species. If Neo could do what he did, The Architect's calculations probably have him frightened into not rebooting the system and starting the cycle anew. Perhaps he believes that restarting the system would reset the cycle.

The One is just an inevitable bug, divine intervention in my opinion.

**GamiSB**

TheShickle wrote:

Procurator wrote:
It's the fact that the Machines haven't reverted to the old Cycle that proves they want to give humanity a chance, or at least the more sensible subset of humanity, viz. the Machinists.

Possibly, or The Architect finally realized that over time the "one" will grow along with his species. If Neo could do what he did, The Architect's calculations probably have him frightened into not rebooting the system and starting the cycle anew. Perhaps he believes that restarting the system would reset the cycle.
The One is just an inevitable bug, divine intervention in my opinion.

Problem is though (this is according to Pace) they can't reset the system. We aren't stuck where we are because the Machine wants to give us all a chance. We're here because the Machine can't use the old system of things any more. They don't have Neo to reset anything and without his code it can't be done. Thus the best they can do is maintain a firm control over Zion so that the anomolies within the system (the 1%) don't crash it.

**Illyria22**

I don't recall Pace saying that.

Illyria

**Neoteny**

Illyria22 wrote:

I don't recall Pace saying that.

Illyria

She phrased it much more pleasantly. I believe she touted it as an advantage - "it may no longer be necessary to" blah blah blah "because the code of the One is no longer in existence." Something like that, at least.

She went on to talk about how they have measures in place to ensure that Machinists do not revolt against the rules of the System in the same dialogue, I believe. It was a part of a Q&A shortly after the Truce fell.

**GamiSB** · 10/23/2007 19:13:58

Gray says it flat out and...

Pace answers GQs question about the cycle informing him that the anomaly is gone.

**PS10N**

If the Machines can't control you, they will overwrite you and if that can not be done, they will kill you. This is an indisputable fact of their constant behavior over the past six and a half centuries. This means all of you. The Redpill Machines have given over their jack encoding to their masters and those maniacal mechanicals are trying to get the jack encoding for Zion from the abandoned mainframe. Since Merovingian operatives were Awakened thru Zion and are in that database, no one is safe. It's meatwads for all of you, my little dearies, meatwads for all of you, Zion, EPN, Merovingian, Machines and Cypherites: your future is a meatwad.

Basic machine programming overview:
1) CONTROL
2) Failing 1, OVERWRITE
3) Failing 2, KILL

**Illyria22**

GamiSB wrote:

Gray says it flat out and...
Pace answers GQs question about the cycle informing him that the anomaly is gone.

This doesn't mean that they can't reboot the simulation...in fact, it means the opposite. It means that they can do it at any time. The One is dead; they had his body, so of course they had the code that made him the One. "The anomaly is eliminated" = "that code has been returned to the source". Right now we are between the part of the cycle where that code returns to the source and when Zion is destroyed.

Gray said there was no vital factor for a reset of the simulation. That doesn't mean they can't do it, it's that they choose not to.

Illyria

**GamiSB** · 10/23/2007 20:41:23

No he says "A vital factor contributeing to such a reset no longer exist"

vital - existing as a manifestation of life, concerned with or necessary to the maintenance of life
exist - have being in a specified place or with respect to understood limitations or conditions

A factor that was the life of the cycle is gone completly. Thus the cycle is unable to be reset.

"The anomaly is elimitaned" =/= "the code has been returned to the soruce". It means that Neo is dead.

Agent's dont cover there words or hide meanings. They don't speak poeticly or metaphoricly.They are blunt and straight to the point. Stop trying to read between the lines when there is nothing there.

Shadow Griever

yeah, the machines are evasive, but if they tell you a straight answer you can bet that it is the truth

**Croesis**

PS10N wrote:

If the Machines can't control you, they will overwrite you and if that can not be done, they will kill you. This is an indisputable fact of their constant behavior over the past six and a half centuries. This means all of you. The Redpill Machines have given over their jack encoding to their masters and those maniacal mechanicals are trying to get the jack encoding for Zion from the abandoned mainframe. Since Merovingian operatives were Awakened thru Zion and are in that database, no one is safe. It's meatwads for all of you, my little dearies, meatwads for all of you, Zion, EPN, Merovingian, Machines and Cypherites: your future is a meatwad.

Basic machine programming overview:
1) CONTROL
2) Failing 1, OVERWRITE
3) Failing 2, KILL

Bravo, Preacher, bravo. Please.. continue your unsubstantiated claims....