Is this what it has come too?

ThHidden01

I can't believe I am hearing this, but does RP really dominate this game so much as to be so pathetic as what I have just learned?

Now recently my friend, Raz, told me he would like to join Dragoons, the faction he was currently in was Pluribus Neo. I have no spite with PN, and as far as I know our factions do not collide in any problems.

Now tonight was a live event, and Raz, still being in PN went to this event, it was an EPN event. Now I do not know the full details of the event, but I know he killed a lv 70, got the final killed. He was then told he could get a perpetual sword, or something else along the same lines...

Later that night he joins the Dragoons, and waiting for his reward does he get it? Nope.

Now I do not know if this is a dev decision or not, but he was told by Reposco that he was not aloud it for leaving EPN. Considering he earnt that item, and has his name on the kill, he is the only one entitled to the item. Just because he joined a new faction he is told he cannot have! This is absolutely disgraceful, and to think a man's done the work to get an item, and is excited to get it and told he can't have because he is spited by someone who obviously is bitter.

Raz is a good man, and I understand RP and its concepts, but this is too far. Why should he be victimised for this? Why should he be denied something he earnt!

Now I do not know if Rarebit made this choice, or it was the liason alone, but to think that this happens, speaks volumes of the recent shouts of favouritism.

What are your thoughts on this, and please think of Raz here, not only Roleplay.

TH

**Archangel**

Chill out man. That's not LESIG's call, it's Rarebit's. And it usually takes Rarebit at least a week to get that kind of stuff out. Sometimes sooner, but a lot of times it's a few days. If it isn't here in a week, then you can complain.

**Foxxdie**

It's a game with the liaisons, and part of any game is knowing how to win. If you swap organizations then you've broken the "rules" of the liaisons and events, and so you don't necessary deserve the item since you didn't win the game.

ThHidden01

I'm PM'd Rarebit and like I said I don't know the whole story. I have nothing against PN so I am not angry at them, well they have no control over dev awards. I just don't like my friends disrespected in this manner if this is the case.

If it is but a RP disagreement fair enough, but that is a big reward to be playing with..

TH

**Syna**

From a completely objective standpoint:

If Raz get's the award then I will be org switching for each event. I have friends in all org's who would happily tell me what's going on. I switch orgs, get the final kill and go to another org.

Obviously, I will not do this but yeah, from a roleplay point of view you don't reward your operatives who kinda betrayed you.

From a player, thus biased standpoint:

Raz deserves the award. He got lucky, he should get the award. Orgs have nothing to do with this. He won fair and square. This is simply miscommunication. If people would know about this tomorrow Raz would've gotten his award.

My personal view on this:
I was not there, I cannot judge what happened. All coins have two sides and so does this particular circumstance.

**Sphairo**

Raz should get that reward if he won fair and square and got the final blow, and he was still EPN at the time he did this, right?

**WirePx**

It's Rarebits call and not the laisons. You don't get something for getting last him all the time. During the Jokerof- event I and many others got last him and got nothing. Lots of people were OooO you're getting something, but nothing came and we took it as Oh Well. You don't get a reward untill it's in your email, no matter what anyone says. And putting it on the forums isn't going to help, at all.

**WirePx**

Oh and Phrack got the reward because he found the data. So theres the reward, it was for finding data not final blow.

ThHidden01

Sphairo wrote:

Raz should get that reward if he won fair and square and got the final blow, and he was still EPN at the time he did this, right?

Raz isn't like that! He has been EPN for a very long time, and he decided tonight was the last night, how was he to know a level 70 would be there, and it isn't exactly easy to get the final kill.

TH

**Sphairo**

Were the rules stated properly, from the beginning of the event, or at some point during? Did the liason and/or LET char say that in order to get the perpetual sword, one must get the 'final' blow? Or deal the most damage? or something else along those lines?

**Procurator**

I reckon it's just 'cos Rarebit hasn't mailed the reward yet. He doesn't do it right after the event. It's perfectly possible that the liaison hadn't heard anything official at all, and just thought: 'He hasn't got his sword, eh? He must not be allowed, I guess.'

Assuming that it was withheld due to org switching... If the reward was org-specific (and so far there's only one such reward), I'd understand. But otherwise it's unfair.

ThHidden01

From what I understand the liason offered him an award. He also cusses me out, to which I take no real offence, roleplay is roleplay maybe...

Now I know Phrack won something, and I understand about Org Hoppers too, but as players above have said Raz is a good legit player. Now if Rarebit says he cannot get it, he cannot get it.

I just feel that this is a major injustice to a man who deserves the reward, and to then be blackmailed by the liason that if he doesn't go back he wont get the item is terrible. I hold no begrudges against EPN, or PN, just this one liason and sorry to slash on these forums, I hate that, but he is spoiling things here.

TH

**Sphairo**

On a totally unrelated note, TheHidden01, your sig is pure eye candy! Alot of love and cookies went into that it looks like. :)

ThHidden01 · 11/15/2007 18:07:58

He had to suck his willeh for it for a long long time!

I have spoken to Rarebit, and was told because he was not EPN at the time he mailed them he does not get it.

Nothing I can do if Rarebit says no /shrug.

This doesn't help the poor guy who is now forced to go w/o, unless he goes back to EPN...

TH

**SolidRevolver**

After a group of us took part in the event which luckily got us the Perp Red Eye, even though there was a party afterwards and we all stayed around for a while afterwards to talk about everything it was during the night I got the mail thus opened it on the morning (I am running on GMT)

Obviously I dont know the details behind the event and how Rarebit was going to (if at all) give out rewards, if it was hinted that he was to get something and gets nothing, I personally think thats wrong, but if it was just speculation that he is not getting anything because he is switching orgs then, well you cant go by hearsay alone.