Vampyre RP, ookami, <edited>, blooddrinkers, etc..

cryshal · 08/15/2006 16:43:59

..why?

this is not Underworld Online. what in the flying hell are vampires (and 16 yr old kids pretending to be vampires) doing in the matrix? toward the end of the night, at the last mech meet/greet, area chat was full of *doing this with blood* and *doing that with whoever's life force* and *soft sensual sexual innuendos that are only sensual if youre a vampire drinking blood* and so on.

this is lame.

put the matrix back into mxo. im not the first one to say that. no, thats not a reference to hackers.. duh, its a computer system, mxo = hax, deal with it. however, since the hell when are ghosts and goblins any significant part of the storyline? i realise its a cheapo method to garner a broader fan base, but come ON.

would the devs pls consider talking to chadwick to ask him to downplay the lupine/vampire/werewolf/hobbit thing from now on?

for the record, i LOVE kate beckinsale and i want to do lots of unchristian things to her. oh yes.. with ketchup, pls. this doesnt stop me from laughing at dumbasses ingame with names like "VampireSelene" and such tho. ppl usually cite the scene in reloaded with the lupines and such.. BIG DEAL!#$ persephone herself was saying that theyre just bookends, kept around for the sake of keeping them around.. a holdover from an earlier version of the matrix. k great. lose the witches and warlocks, and lets have more guns =D

Siros7

Because vampires and werewolves (blooddrinkers and lupines) are totally part of the matrix?
I mean, there even were lupinelike exiles in the movies, how can you say they arent matrixy?

Siros7

*CENSORED* forums, stop messing with my post and stealing my edit function!

Anyway, Persephone might have said they were just kept around for the sake of keeping them around, but times have changed and exiles have a lot more freedom now.

And it's not like MxO is only vampire this, werewolf that. That's with all the players trying to RP one. Can't blame mxo for that. Exiles are a nice part of the matrix lore (woopsy, fantasy term slipped in SMILEY

) and they really add some nice things to both the matrix franchise and the movies.

ps I hate these forums.

**zeroone506**

First of all...

...(and 16 yr old kids pretending to be vampires)...
I'm 17 myself, and I don't wanna read any insults like this anymore.
I'm sure, if I was, say, eight or nine, I wouldn't admire my age being equated to immaturity and idiocy aswell.

Player RP can be completely free of blooddrinkers or werewolves and still be dumb as bleepity-bleep -- be it 1337 "Im t3h 0n3 lol", pretending to be an Agent, or whatever else.
As Siros said, player RP is just this, player RP, and is not to be equated with the game's storyline canon or those writing it. Please try to separate these two entirely different issues from each other.

However, the actual problem with "vampyre RP" is exactly that it exceeds the storyline canon.
Player characters are not supposed to be programs (Exiles, Agents or whatever else), bluepills, or anything else but redpills. Heck, even as redpills, their role wingspan is limited: they can't play Sleepwalkers or Unlimits for example. Anything breaking these rules is wrong --
BUT, not necessarily stupid. I've experienced some rather smart "vampyre RP" by players aswell.

Now, to the other topic: "vampyres" in the story canon.
First, something for the record: as it happens to be, characters like Malphas and Ookami are not Chadwick's creation, and go on the account of the LET. So far, their appearences were organized by Rarebit and the LESIG. But that just marginally.

Does really anyone else need to say that vamps, lupines and the like ARE part of the Matrix universe? Wasn't there a mission in Enter the Matrix (mission=bunch of levels), with no other enemies but vamps and dobermen (and that game was written by the Wachowskis)?
That only because Persephone once said something about two particular Merv minions, it does not have such an omnivalent meaning to the whole Matrix? The twins were morphing into ghosts, and occupied the movie's largest action sequence (and lots of ad posters around the world). They, Cain and Abel, and all the monsters in MxO -- all of them holdovers from an older Matrix version. Seem to be quite many of them then, eh?

Get your facts straight, please. If you don't like fantasy creatures or medieval castles/swords to be part of the Matrix style, go and blame the Wachowskis for including them into their franchise. Ranting about "the Matrix to be put back in MxO" is plain irrational.

**ZippyTheSquirrel**

The developers and big wigs of MxO have no power over those RPing as vampires and werewolves. For all I care, I could make an alt as a Fairy and spam "Hey! Look! Listen! Hey!" whenever and there's nothing they could do about it. Well, maybe suspend for spamming..

And as for NPCs as Vampires and Werewolves...without them, the Matrix would be nothing but humans and human-type Machines praddling about. BORING.

I'm all for more non-humanoids in the Matrix.

O-Link

If the devs would have wanted players to be anything but human, they would have made a custom character creation and tutorial. The game wasn't designed to support support player vampires or any other programs, and neither was the storyline. (It's like a hobbit RPing as an orch in LOTRO)

Faithlessness

More player organisations isnt supported either, but its needed and in the storyline.... >.>

(just saying that if something isnt in the games' engines/mechanisms, it can still be a part of the game)

Sykin

It's nice to see players trying to be creative usually. But they need to keep in mind that only programs/Exiles which exist only within the Matrix and can therefore change their shell and how they can act according to the rules and limits of the Simulation at will can be seen as Vampires or Werewolves, et cetera.

Like the Oracle said: "Any time someone claims to have seen vampires or angels [...] that's a program doing something it's not supposed to."

I really dislike when players who acted human before say that they were bitten by a werewolf or vampire program in the Matrix and it changed their RSI... Just doesn't seem correct in my eyes.

QforQ-MxO

If you ask me, everyone that is a player in MxO is a redpill. And no, redpills IMHO cannot be infected with some sort of vampire virus or something like that.

I'm not a fan of it and I think it's pretty silly. But whatever, whatever people wanna do to get their kicks they can.

**PBlade**

Yeah. I'm gonna echo Zeroone here, drop the age think for Christ's sake. I'm 17 and, without meaning to brag, I feel I can hold my own against some of the older members of this community. Just call them retards for the love of God, they need no age definition!

**zeroone506**

Sykin wrote:

It's nice to see players trying to be creative usually. But they need to keep in mind that only programs/Exiles which exist only within the Matrix and can therefore change their shell and how they can act according to the rules and limits of the Simulation at will can be seen as Vampires or Werewolves, et cetera.

Like the Oracle said: "Any time someone claims to have seen vampires or angels [...] that's a program doing something it's not supposed to."

I really dislike when players who acted human before say that they were bitten by a werewolf or vampire program in the Matrix and it changed their RSI... Just doesn't seem correct in my eyes.

No, I don't think a vampire can just get bored and change his shell do a lupine's. After all, these Exile species have their communities and leaderships -- would Malphas talk about his "brat" if all of his subordinates could aswell change to lupines or succubi in no time?
The question how tight an exile individual is tied to his appearence is worth discussing, but I think some extent is there.

As of the Oracle's explanation, my interpretation is that the Machines, if they've created such a program, don't intend them to do things "someone" could see. From a wider point of view, Exiles generally aren't supposed to exist, and the things they do (especially when attracting attention among bluepills) are not meant to be by the Machines.

Thirdly, this might be right, but where do the legends of people being bitten by werewolves and transformed into ones? It's arguable, at least.

**Aquilae**

It's just a game created for fun. Let people play what they paid for. Go to another district if you don't want to listen to it.

Regulus

Remember, the Matrix is what Paul makes it now.

**Dragonram**

*is 16*

Omg y u complayn bout me!? I wil like suck j00r blood out n0w! *flies around with a vampiric cape*
Bleh bleh! I vant to suck your bloood!!!

What would Morpheus say to all this eh?

Seriously though, age has nothing to do with it. ¬_¬

- Ð

Sykin

zeroone506 wrote:

No, I don't think a vampire can just get bored and change his shell do a lupine's. After all, these Exile species have their communities and leaderships -- would Malphas talk about his "brat" if all of his subordinates could aswell change to lupines or succubi in no time?
The question how tight an exile individual is tied to his appearence is worth discussing, but I think some extent is there.

Well, I didn't say they can change (facial expressions) their appearance at will whenever and how ever many times they want. However, I did say that they can change their 'shell'. Like a program that governed the growth of trees suddenly becomes outdated and changes into a form it can live in the Matrix as in an easy way--My guess is that it wouldn't like to remain like a tree. Or it couldn't, for that matter, because it doesn't have access to the rules governing its previous duty for the simulation any more.

Yet I can see some of its previous attributes flowing into its choice of appearance--Perhaps green hair and a sage-like store of knowledge and patience.

Where did the legends of vampires and werewolves came from? Obviously not Exiles because Cain and Abel are seen watching a vampire movie--I think that Exiles become inspired by the fears or interests of the human imagination; after all, is that not what the Exiles exist in moreso than anything else themselves?