EPN sets off code bombs?

**monkeymanx8**

So my understanding of these "code bombs" or "code pulses" is that they reveal the code of the Matrix to all of the bluepills, creating mass awakenings and killing many bluepills (because of percentage of bluepills that can handle awakening is supposedly low). So my question is... Why has EPN (and other orgs?) set these off? Doesn't it do the exact opposite of giving the bluepills the choice? Organizations other than EPN are free to answer this as long as you don't flame the hell out of it.

**ZippyTheSquirrel** · 06/22/2008 21:54:12

I haven't seen EPN blow any code bombs in... years.

Well, okay, there was Taecross. And Taecross's fan club with their annual code bombings. But those guys are just crazy. ;p

And as far as I know the Code Pulse doesn't actually do any damage to the Matrix (i.e. freakin' out the code, drowning blues).

Edit: And again I haven't seen any Code Pulsing since the Morpheus Returns events.

**Michael1**

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

I haven't seen EPN blow any code bombs in... years.

Well, okay, there was Taecross. And Taecross's fan club with their annual code bombings. But those guys are just crazy. ;p

And as far as I know the Code Pulse doesn't actually do any damage to the Matrix (i.e. freakin' out the code, drowning blues).

Edit: And again I haven't seen any Code Pulsing since the Morpheus Returns events.

2 weeks ago we blowed a couple code bombs to distract the Cypherites.

Zudrag

Michael1 wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
I haven't seen EPN blow any code bombs in... years.

Well, okay, there was Taecross. And Taecross's fan club with their annual code bombings. But those guys are just crazy. ;p

And as far as I know the Code Pulse doesn't actually do any damage to the Matrix (i.e. freakin' out the code, drowning blues).

Edit: And again I haven't seen any Code Pulsing since the Morpheus Returns events.
2 weeks ago we blowed a couple code bombs to distract the Cypherites.

Code bombs have the green code effect, Code pulse devices use yellow/gold code. Are you sure it was green?

**Neoteny**

They were code pulses.

**Asa**

monkeymanx8 wrote:

So my understanding of these "code bombs" or "code pulses"

Here's your problem, you're assuming that these two things are the same when they're not.

A code bomb is a weapon. It does as you said, reveals the code of the Matrix causing anyone who sees it to wake up, many of which simply end up drowning in their pods (why their pods don't get flushed like anyone elses when they wake up I don't know but nevermind). It's used to destabalise the system by disrupting it's power source.

A code pulse is a hacking tool. When a code pulse is detonated it has no effect at all on the bluepill population. The device instead realeases a barrage of hacks and dirty code deep into the system, uncovering and transmitting data that would otherwise not be reachable (or very difficult to reach).

Code bombs haven't been utilised in quite some time, apart from, as Zippy said, by TaeCross, the rogue EPN liason and his annual gang of followers. Code Pulses however are used on a semi-regular basis by EPN in order to obtain information or other more creative uses like unlocking doors into constructs.

Hope that clears things up for you.

Ebola

But, Code Pulses are hacking into the System violently... who knows what long term effect repeated hacks will make. They are still deadly to the System, even if its not immediatly apparent.

((MxO version's of holes in the Ozone :p ))

**Croesis**

Ebola wrote:

But, Code Pulses are hacking into the System violently... who knows what long term effect repeated hacks will make. They are still deadly to the System, even if its not immediatly apparent.
((MxO version's of holes in the Ozone :p ))

Precisely. It has not been long enough to guage the full long term effects, if any, of the code pulses. Just because the short term doesn't manifest any issue does not mean that, in the long run, none will appear.

I'd like to know if there has been any serious study into the long term effects of these 'devices' but I tend to doubt that there has, they do the job there and then, who cares what happens later.

Apparently though the most recent attempt was foiled by the Cyphs although I can't see how it distracted them. I believe they were looking for the Morpheus Sim and found it. In fact it was the Morpheus Sim who actually told them about the occuring event.

**GamiSB** · 06/23/2008 04:37:20

Vinia wrote:

Ebola wrote:
But, Code Pulses are hacking into the System violently... who knows what long term effect repeated hacks will make. They are still deadly to the System, even if its not immediatly apparent.
((MxO version's of holes in the Ozone :p ))
Precisely. It has not been long enough to guage the full long term effects, if any, of the code pulses. Just because the short term doesn't manifest any issue does not mean that, in the long run, none will appear.
I'd like to know if there has been any serious study into the long term effects of these 'devices' but I tend to doubt that there has, they do the job there and then, who cares what happens later.
Apparently though the most recent attempt was foiled by the Cyphs although I can't see how it distracted them. I believe they were looking for the Morpheus Sim and found it. In fact it was the Morpheus Sim who actually told them about the occuring event.

Its been a little less than two years. System is still working fine even in the areas hit hardest and the most frequently and by this SOME kind of affect (if there was one) would be at the be a the very least noticeable.

**Croesis** · 06/23/2008 04:44:00

GamiSB wrote:

Its been over two years. System is still working fine even in the areas hit hard and by this SOME kind of affect (if there was one) would be noticeable.

Not necessarily, especially if the effect is cumulative. As Ebola pointed out, it may have the old Ozone effect. As I said, unless there has been adequate and serious study into any long term effects, simply stating that nothing is wrong so far and no problems will arise is ridiculous, especially if the areas hit are not routinely observed, studied and monitored.

The simulation is the home to bluepills, both those who may 'want' out and those who don't. Unless there is direct evidence that nothing will arise from these devices, their continued use is still, imo, incredibly irresponsible.

**0uranos** · 06/23/2008 07:55:43

I left EPN when they started to use Code Pulses, I don't really trust the "no harm is done with this bombs" they're saying.

**Garu**

I don't trust CPDs either. Though they claim not to affect the unawakened they still are intrusive to the Matrix, which could have effects on everyone still plugged in, let alone the programs that maintain it.

Has anything actually useful been obtained by using CPDs? Or are they still scraping the bottom of the recycle bin?

**ShiXinFeng**

So-- hacking into the Matrix from your ship at broadcast depth is...what? Safe? Unintrusive?

Oh wait, let me guess, you Machinists get 'special access' so that's it's not 'hacking' technically...

CPD's have never had any long term detrimental affect on the prison construct. Please refrain from fear-mongering in the absence of supporting evidence.

**deimoslvov**

Yeah, really, stop this anti-EPN hysteria. The Matrix has easily recovered after the Smith virus in the end of the Revoultion, all the other code corruptions have always been repaired really quickly by the Machines (see the "Beyond" Animatrix story). Even if a CPD really does cause any harm to the System, it is nothing the Machines cannot handle. Easily.

**Croesis**

Again, you have no opposing evidence to say that there is no detrimental effect over the long term. The only evidence you are willing to present is that there has been no evidence thus far. And if code corruption was so easily fixed, how come you still get corrupted outbreaks in Bathery? According to Ghost this is due to the simulation not being reset. Datamining is another aspect, you wouldn't be able to do it if the Machines could easily sort out the code leakage.

While the code of the simulation was written by the Machines, adding a new program, one that does something that was never intended by the simulation, could have long term consequences. Deny it all you want with the same old flimsy excuse, the devices get you results so who cares what actually happens to the simulation and it's bluepill population?