Is It Real>?

**deviljonny**

Katala wrote:
/sigh

No, it's not real, now go play outside in the sunshine.

:smileyindifferent:

What makes you think that it is real?

Faithlessness

I had thoughts once... as for this moment, I have none.

Katala

FlaminMathew1 wrote:

Its very Possbile

Random thought, what if this thread is deleted by mistake cos were steping on the truth

Message Edited by FlaminMathew1 on 06.15.200601:53 PM
Message Edited by FlaminMathew1 on 06.15.2006 01:54 PM

OK. I want you to do something for me.

Take a large piece of paper and draw a vertical line down the middle of it. Now on the left hand side at the top write REAL and on the right hand side write PRETEND.

Done that? Good.

Now under REAL write down - Love, death, war, biscuits, famine, peanuts, radiators, jam, cabbages, carpets, wood, pensions and lemonade.

Under PRETEND wite down - The X-Files, Ghosts, The Matrix, Star Wars, Ben Affleck's acting talent, Alien Abduction Stories, Sponge Bob, Scooby Doo, Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction and LOST.

... put God under in which ever column makes you feel best, I'm SO not getting into that.

Done That?

Right, that should be enough to start you off, you should now be able to work out what columns things go in as they come up. Check the list when-ever you wonder what's real or not.

Now, go play in the sunshine!

NOTE: I am of course telling you all this becuase I am part of a global conspiricy and huge government cover up about the true nature of reality. I'd explain more but I have a meeting with Mysterons in a few minutes, then I have to fake another moon landing before dinner. Busy Busy Busy.

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EDIT: If this thread is deleted of course then yes... you are absolutly right, it's a conspiricy... run and tell everyone you know immediately. :smileyhappy:

Message Edited by Katala on 06.15.2006 02:28 PM

Message Edited by Katala on 06.15.2006 02:30 PM
Message edited by Katala on 06/15/2006 05:30:01.

**ZippyTheSquirrel**

This is exactly what the Wachowski Brothers had in mind when they made the movies. This thread, right here.

This thread is all that is the goal of the Wachowski Bros. Clearly, they have succeeded.

This thread.....IS the Matrix.

FeralBoy

It is not necessary to have a computer simulated environment in order for humanity to be enslaved. You can be a slave to all kinds of things with very minimal effort. The Matrix is just a cool story to get you to think along those lines.

"What is MY Matrix?"

"What kind of prison is MY mind in?"

The sooner you ask these kinds of questions, the sooner you'll be on the path to truth. Probably no Trinity in store for you though, sorry.

Ghats

The reason the Matrix is so interesting is because there is NO way to disprove any theory you have involving the matrix. This is why religion plays such a big role in the movies. In all honesty, the Matrix is false perception. There is NO way to prove that you arent in a computer simulated program made to look and feel like real life. If a simulation is good enough, there is no real way to tell it apart from the real. Think of it this way...I'm sure a lot of people have played the sims before....

Now when you play the sims, you give them personalities which in turn effect their "lives"...now look at yourself....you were created by something at some point in time. You didnt just appear out of thin air....man was created...just like we "created" our sims...we are just on another level. So yeah, us being in a matrix is a possibility, but so are a lot of other things. For all you know, your entire life could be a dream that you are waiting to wake up from. This might be one big dream...and any second now, your gunna wake up and forget all about it. Its like dark city, if someone came and erased your memory ever day and put you into a new life with a new set of memories...would you ever notice? you might be sitting there right now, with a ton of memories from your life...that NEVER happened, your memories could have just been placed there. You could have been a homosexual prostitute last night, and you wouldnt even remember right now.. how scary is that? lol

Katala

OK, a less flame ridden reply, with less of an attempt at humour (I was born in a bad mood that's so far lasted 32 years... sue me. But you deserved a less sarcastic answer, so here we go.)

2 questions...

Question 1:

1. Which is more likely ? (Occam's Razor time boys and girls)

A - The universe we inhabit is real and as it appears to be.
B - The universe we inhabit is an elaborate and perfect computer simulation of another world created by a race of self aware machines who have enslaved the human race.
C - The universe we inhabit is the subconscious projection of a super-being or deity and we ourselves are only parts of this dream and do not actually exist.
D - The entire universe we inhabit is in fact a subatomic particle (such as a neutron or quark) of an atom of a much large universe which in itself is a subatomic particle of a much large universe... ad infinitum
E - You are insane or in a state of coma and the entire universe as you know it is infact being played out inside you head.

Occam's razor states that where there exist multiple theories that cannot be proven, the theory that contains the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest hypothetical entities is most likely to be correct one. In other words, the universe likes things simple, and if you hear hoof beats behind you, think horses, not zebras riding bicycles banging coconuts together.

Question 2:

If the universe is in fact not theory A above but one of B though E, and there is no way of escaping it, proving it, or making the situation any different... does it matter to someone within that universe (i.e. You)?

You can't do anything about it, you don't know about it and the universe you inhabit is as real to you as anything can be, and is therefore can be considered absolutely real to you.

Think of it this way. Someone comes into your house while you are asleep and steals your television, but replaces it with a television that is exactly the same in every way possible. Are you the victim of a crime?

An outside observer might say yes, or no depending on their point of view. However if someone asked you, you would say no, because you are completely unaware of the situation, and the television you own today is the same to you as the one you owned yesterday.

So, it doesn't actually matter what reality is. Just enjoy it (and go play in the sunshine).

:smileyvery-happy:

Message Edited by Katala on 06.16.2006 01:45 PM
Message edited by Katala on 06/16/2006 04:45:35.