Phrack posted but RougeA wrote:Cypherites, take this as a blessing, not a curse. Before you lies a vast opportunity. Sure, your organization leaders are leaving you high and dry, but so what? Cryptos wasn't a speck in our mind's eye before he burst onto the scene delcaring his agenda. I had left the Cypherite organization for the very things that you are regretting losing, but think about it for a minute.... before the so-called public operations, being a Cypherite had a meaning more than just being another hand of the machines. We followed our own agenda, not the ones set forth by Toorima and Cryptos. Before then, we were something to be respected and feared, not just a simple nuissance to be defeated, only to endlessly come back for more. Take this oppertunity to set forth your own beliefs and ideals, and carry them out accordingly, under your own power. Not to rain on Rouge's parade but this most definitely is not a blessing and is a major blow to both orgs. Now that their leaders are going underground and will hardly be around the players within those orgs have no connection to the story they wanted to help play out. Anything we do now outside of what the story has the orgs doing is going to have to be player created which amounts to fan-fiction as far as the official story is concerned. So unless you enjoy writing fanfiction and are fine with not playing out the orgs role this change is a blessing but for those of us who have put in up to three years of work only to be slapped in the face this is very much a curse.Synapse777 wrote:I always knew that reinsertion couldn't be done was a lie. And that statement is based on what?
Phrack posted but RougeA wrote:
Cypherites, take this as a blessing, not a curse. Before you lies a vast opportunity. Sure, your organization leaders are leaving you high and dry, but so what? Cryptos wasn't a speck in our mind's eye before he burst onto the scene delcaring his agenda. I had left the Cypherite organization for the very things that you are regretting losing, but think about it for a minute.... before the so-called public operations, being a Cypherite had a meaning more than just being another hand of the machines. We followed our own agenda, not the ones set forth by Toorima and Cryptos. Before then, we were something to be respected and feared, not just a simple nuissance to be defeated, only to endlessly come back for more. Take this oppertunity to set forth your own beliefs and ideals, and carry them out accordingly, under your own power.
Not to rain on Rouge's parade but this most definitely is not a blessing and is a major blow to both orgs. Now that their leaders are going underground and will hardly be around the players within those orgs have no connection to the story they wanted to help play out. Anything we do now outside of what the story has the orgs doing is going to have to be player created which amounts to fan-fiction as far as the official story is concerned.
So unless you enjoy writing fanfiction and are fine with not playing out the orgs role this change is a blessing but for those of us who have put in up to three years of work only to be slapped in the face this is very much a curse.
Synapse777 wrote:
I always knew that reinsertion couldn't be done was a lie.
And that statement is based on what?
a bit off topic but what ever happened to those two frags given to epn and cyphs from the oracle to hold onto for something special?or is that still going on and now there just dropping whatever use they had?
I am reposting part of what I wrote on the new approach thread because its relevant to this thread as well.
Ingus wrote:
These splinter orgs have identities. The Prophet dusters vs the Bandana rags . EPN, loyal followers of Neo looking to free the human race at all cost. They are looked on by Zion as reglious fanatics of a dead savior. Zion is too militant and don't rely on fate, prophecies, and messiahs to see them through.Cypherites, loyalist of the late Cypher. Their hate for zion is too extreme to keep in line with the poised and methodical approach of the Machine organization. They want to put EVERYONE to sleep and kill all who oppose their goal. They're not by the book.All these orgs lack is a little help from the devs to make them self-sufficient.Opinionated solutions:Cyphs are summoned to handle the covert operations. The dirty work that would give Machines a bad name. (PVP/RP). EPNs... their fate in saviors, honoring the memory of Neo and what he has accomplished is a motivation in it's own. Hell Zion doesn't care about what Neo has done for them anymore. The truce is over the war is back on. Neo was just a moment in time that gave them one shiny hope (The Truce) but even that wasn't good enough.
These splinter orgs have identities. The Prophet dusters vs the Bandana rags . EPN, loyal followers of Neo looking to free the human race at all cost. They are looked on by Zion as reglious fanatics of a dead savior. Zion is too militant and don't rely on fate, prophecies, and messiahs to see them through.
Cypherites, loyalist of the late Cypher. Their hate for zion is too extreme to keep in line with the poised and methodical approach of the Machine organization. They want to put EVERYONE to sleep and kill all who oppose their goal. They're not by the book.
All these orgs lack is a little help from the devs to make them self-sufficient.
Opinionated solutions:
Cyphs are summoned to handle the covert operations. The dirty work that would give Machines a bad name. (PVP/RP).
EPNs... their fate in saviors, honoring the memory of Neo and what he has accomplished is a motivation in it's own. Hell Zion doesn't care about what Neo has done for them anymore. The truce is over the war is back on. Neo was just a moment in time that gave them one shiny hope (The Truce) but even that wasn't good enough.
Yes, yes, and yes. I couldn't agree with you more, Ingus. For those that say EPN and CYPHs have no purpose and they are basically the same as Zion and Machines have obviously never been in a hardcore RP EPN or CYPH faction, or aren't interested in those specific aspects that Ingus mentioned. I thought that EPN going to the no-fly zone was brilliant and much fresher than anything else that has been going on lately. Kid has always done way more interesting and exciting things compared to Niobe, besides getting herself shot. So, keep EPN and get rid of Zion. They are soo boring anyway
I just feel like with EPN/Cyph you have more artistic freedom and its a waste to not tap into that.
The original plan was that EPN/Cyph was just going to be around for a little while and then go away. But the orgs were a bigger hit than they had anticipated and they couldnt get rid of them in fear of the backlash they would get. My point is, why is it okay now to get rid of them? Why take something away that was obviously good for the game?
I am reposting part of what I wrote on the new approach thread because its relevant to this thread as well.Ingus wrote:These splinter orgs have identities. The Prophet dusters vs the Bandana rags . EPN, loyal followers of Neo looking to free the human race at all cost. They are looked on by Zion as reglious fanatics of a dead savior. Zion is too militant and don't rely on fate, prophecies, and messiahs to see them through.Cypherites, loyalist of the late Cypher. Their hate for zion is too extreme to keep in line with the poised and methodical approach of the Machine organization. They want to put EVERYONE to sleep and kill all who oppose their goal. They're not by the book.All these orgs lack is a little help from the devs to make them self-sufficient.Opinionated solutions:Cyphs are summoned to handle the covert operations. The dirty work that would give Machines a bad name. (PVP/RP). EPNs... their fate in saviors, honoring the memory of Neo and what he has accomplished is a motivation in it's own. Hell Zion doesn't care about what Neo has done for them anymore. The truce is over the war is back on. Neo was just a moment in time that gave them one shiny hope (The Truce) but even that wasn't good enough. Yes, yes, and yes. I couldn't agree with you more, Ingus. For those that say EPN and CYPHs have no purpose and they are basically the same as Zion and Machines have obviously never been in a hardcore RP EPN or CYPH faction, or aren't interested in those specific aspects that Ingus mentioned. I thought that EPN going to the no-fly zone was brilliant and much fresher than anything else that has been going on lately. Kid has always done way more interesting and exciting things compared to Niobe, besides getting herself shot. So, keep EPN and get rid of Zion. They are soo boring anyway I just feel like with EPN/Cyph you have more artistic freedom and its a waste to not tap into that.The original plan was that EPN/Cyph was just going to be around for a little while and then go away. But the orgs were a bigger hit than they had anticipated and they couldnt get rid of them in fear of the backlash they would get. My point is, why is it okay now to get rid of them? Why take something away that was obviously good for the game?
He took this organization on when he brought in the tags and gave Pluribus Neo and Viral Humanity each the first ones and everyone elses to follow over the years.
privaronT wrote:He took this organization on when he brought in the tags and gave Pluribus Neo and Viral Humanity each the first ones and everyone elses to follow over the years. Um, actually "E Pluribus Neo" on Syntax was the first faction to receive the EPN tag. Pluribus Neo was the first to use the name as its faction title.
GamiSB wrote:privaronT wrote:He took this organization on when he brought in the tags and gave Pluribus Neo and Viral Humanity each the first ones and everyone elses to follow over the years. Um, actually "E Pluribus Neo" on Syntax was the first faction to receive the EPN tag. Pluribus Neo was the first to use the name as its faction title.Well whatever its called I know its Phracks faction and I have always been under the impression they were first. As for Viral Humanity I know that much because both Mek myself were pretty much the leaders with Tetracleric Frei and Zag on the council.
privaronT wrote:GamiSB wrote:privaronT wrote:He took this organization on when he brought in the tags and gave Pluribus Neo and Viral Humanity each the first ones and everyone elses to follow over the years. Um, actually "E Pluribus Neo" on Syntax was the first faction to receive the EPN tag. Pluribus Neo was the first to use the name as its faction title.Well whatever its called I know its Phracks faction and I have always been under the impression they were first. As for Viral Humanity I know that much because both Mek myself were pretty much the leaders with Tetracleric Frei and Zag on the council. Phrack's faction was the first to name itself "Pluribus Neo" my faction was the first to obtain the EPN tag. In fact the Recursion EPN factions had to wait the longest to get their tags because of Liaison issues.
I'll use my Cyph tag to be an elitist on my server
Marias wrote:I'll use my Cyph tag to be an elitist on my serverI thought that's what Cyph's always did with their tags
Pylat wrote:Marias wrote:I'll use my Cyph tag to be an elitist on my serverI thought that's what Cyph's always did with their tags I'm sorry, were you trying to make a joke? I couldn't tell.Pro-tip: Smileys have no effect on the meaning of type.
