Fractor wrote:When neo was awakened it was the year 1999 in the matrix and Morpheus said it was actually closer to the year 2199. The war has gone on for 100 years so it must of started around the year 2099. Will the machines let the matrix get to that year because presumably the bluepills would repeat history by making machines too smart and end up in a war with them again. This could lead to a matrix within a matrix, which would be ridiculous and I think that theory was explored in the movies but it wasn't true. The machines wouldn't want to change the period of time the matrix is in because the 20th century is the time where most of the bluepills accept the system (99% of them) so what would they do? I would of thought they'd reset it back to the beginning of the 20th century and continue to do so everytime it reaches a certain year.
Rarebit wrote:There must be some that age, I would think, otherwise the humans would get kind of suspicious of a bunch of cryptic non-aging people after a decade or so. But then again it's also always 1999, supposedly, so if the Machines can pull that over people's eyes, you'd think the non-aging thing would be relatively easy. And there've gotta be programs who wouldn't need to age for any particular reason. And the Merv for instance is supposed to be nearly a bajillion years old or whatever. Then again, there's his mention of the Oracle finding a new "shell," which makes you wonder if maybe they all just take human bodies, and those age or get banged up, and then they take another one... Brrrr...But like in Sati's case, I would think aging would be kind of inconvenient, at least past a certain point. Maybe they can age to whatever physical age they like, and stop. Eh, who knows. I guess we'll find out in about ten years.Oh wait, we'd need to redo all the models if they were gonna age. Okay, that's it, no aging.
In The Matrix Comics Vol. 1, we learn that the machines are able to control time (or at least the illusion of it) in the "Goliath" story. A glitch in the system caused time to loop while the protagonist was riding a subway car. If I remember correctly, the machines fixed the glitch by reseting the system, but in order to do that they had to set time back a few years. The entire story deals with various oddities related to time.
The end of the story is my favorite line in all of the comics, when the protagonist pens his final words to his wife: "These last twenty minutes have been the best years of my life."
I don't think time actually "passes" as we know it, in a virtual existence. The passage of time is as much an illusion as anything else. Because of this, things like aging and the cycles of night and day are the result of programming, not time.
shauntaylor88 wrote: Fractor wrote: When neo was awakened it was the year 1999 in the matrix and Morpheus said it was actually closer to the year 2199. The war has gone on for 100 years so it must of started around the year 2099. Will the machines let the matrix get to that year because presumably the bluepills would repeat history by making machines too smart and end up in a war with them again. This could lead to a matrix within a matrix, which would be ridiculous and I think that theory was explored in the movies but it wasn't true. The machines wouldn't want to change the period of time the matrix is in because the 20th century is the time where most of the bluepills accept the system (99% of them) so what would they do? I would of thought they'd reset it back to the beginning of the 20th century and continue to do so everytime it reaches a certain year. Remind you of terminator by any chance?and i have read sections of Sophia Stewart's book The Third Eye on a webpage i visited recently, and well it does seem alot like both terminator and the matrix...and somehitn similar happens in it as you described.and i belive that this time around the humans find out the truth and they end up fighting the simulation and win the war
Fractor wrote: When neo was awakened it was the year 1999 in the matrix and Morpheus said it was actually closer to the year 2199. The war has gone on for 100 years so it must of started around the year 2099. Will the machines let the matrix get to that year because presumably the bluepills would repeat history by making machines too smart and end up in a war with them again. This could lead to a matrix within a matrix, which would be ridiculous and I think that theory was explored in the movies but it wasn't true. The machines wouldn't want to change the period of time the matrix is in because the 20th century is the time where most of the bluepills accept the system (99% of them) so what would they do? I would of thought they'd reset it back to the beginning of the 20th century and continue to do so everytime it reaches a certain year.
I'm sure you are aware she lost the case. That doesn't mean I do not believe there is a connection, somewhere, just that there is no proof.
Rights & legal issues aside:
The human race will not win out the war in either situation.
Emulsifier wrote:you also got to take into Context the charred sky... the earth heals itself everytime something bad happens to it... most likely the sky had become blue once again. . .
The Sky is Blue above the Net of machinery designed to block all sunlight:
In the animatrix it is called "DarkStorm". It is my belief that these small machines form a net and generate a controlled 24hr world wide thunderstorm with out precipitation. The fields of electricity & lightning are acting as the self defense EMP and is what protects it from machine counter attack?
Message Edited by AqueousRei on 07.11.2006 10:54 AM
Coer wrote:
Don't forget that Morpheus was wrong in his assumption too
So the year is in fact closer to 2699
I would say it's closer to the year 3000.
Watching that lame movie Dark City, I remember the aliens controlling that place stopped time, who made that movie anyways? It was like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the Matrix & Van Helsing all rolled into one movie.
Based on a story by Alex Proyas, the screenplay is by Alex Proyas and Lem Dobbs (Kafka) and David S. Goyer (The Crow 2). The film is directed by Alex Proyas. Nice concept, horrible Director.
I never really tried to put an actual year on the Matrix between Morpheus saying that they don't really know, and the fact that the sun is not present in general left the issue pretty blank. What is the good in counting the days when you can't even see them? If I had to guess:
>2699 but also more than likely >3000
How much time has passed from the "peak of human civilization" to the building of 01 to the actual creation of the science that allows for the Matrix.
