fowkes wrote:in previous iterations of the matrix the balance created by the architect was the manipulation of the one to force some level of control on those in the real world. The Matrix is a computer program, whereas the real world is not. How could trying to control people in Zion "balance" the Matrix? (Answer: it can't). Besides, according to the Architect, the One was called to him because Zion was about to be destroyed. Since the other Ones all chose to return to the Source, there was no longer an imbalance and therefore no need to try to "force some level of control" on Zion, especially since they were repeatedly wiped out shortly afterward anyway.
hey Clunky.....
I believe someone hit it on the head earlier when they said that his powers were possible because it was the system's way of balencing itself out. In the preveous instances of the matrix, something simular occured to Smith to balance it out as well. This can be seen during the Burly Brawl when Smith says to himself, "Exactaly as before," (paraphrase) and he replies to himself, "Well, not exactally" (also parahrase).
As to the actual mechanics of how he was able to do it, I don't believe it was explained. Maybe he right clicked himself, selected Copy... then right clicked them and selected Paste. But I doubt it.
Message Edited by fowkes on 05-13-2006 02:15 PM
Message Edited by digitize on 05-13-2006 11:59 PM
Message Edited by fowkes on 05-15-2006 02:12 AM
Fowkes is correct. The One is given the task of selecting a small number of men and women to survive the purge of Zion. They restart the human colonization of Zion. Having Zion and humans that are intent on awakening those that reject the simulation, gives the humans that reject the Matrix a focal point. They are collected and removed from the Matrix, instead of rejecting the program and having to stay around, causing system instability.
Think of it like Microsoft Windows. Zion is the "recycle bin". The humans (cunningly guided by the machines) that are free, scour and collect humans that reject the Matrix, like a disk cleaning program. When Zion is "full" the machines empty it. This is only true for extreme cases that the machines can not control with agents and the like.
As for the copying of Smith. He said it himself (paraphased) "You died. I killed you. But then something happened, you killed me. I knew I was meant to return to the source, but I couldn't." ... "some part of you copied over to me, something overwritten." This shows that when (a supposedly dead) Neo killed Agent Smith (who's primary purpose was to exterminate redpills) he had a logic glitch (being killed by a killed yet still-alive RSI would produce something like a divide-by-zero error) and it is possible that part of Neo's code corrupted Smith's (maybe when he was torn apart his "one instance only" code broke due to being in multiple fragments) allowing him to replicate before death instead of after. It makes sense that this is the bit of Smith's code that was damaged as he still required a host to overwrite/occupy (becoming the virus he so despised in the first movie) like all agents.
It is recognised that the point at which Neo killed Smith is when Smith went from relatively normal agent (he seemed more emotional than other Agents), to the crazed multiplying machine.
digitize wrote: Sorry Fowkes, but your explanation is what is flawed. First of all, your "lesson 1" seems to imply that it is the machines that are freeing people from the Matrix. Obviously the movies don't support that theory.
I see a series of actions and reactions that eventually led to the method of control described by the Architect. Here's how I see it going down.
1. Oracle creates her version of the Matrix
2. 1% reject Matrix
3. systemic anomaly the result of the rejection
4. systemic anomaly eventually builds until it becomes the integral anomaly
5. integral anomaly attaches to human
6. integral anomaly needs to be dumped at the Source to cleanse the system
7. Architect seeks to control this human
8. Oracle suggests that human be given a messiah role
9. human is granted power from the Source
10. Oracle creates Path of the One to guide the human to the Source
11. messiah needs followers, so concept of Zion is created
12. Zion exists not as a dumping ground but as means to train the One and create an attachment between him and humanity
13. human reaches Architect and given choice to save humanity or allow them all to die
14. Zion's purpose is over, so it is destroyed
15. the One is instructed to help rebuilding of Zion so that the cycle can begin again
The part I want to emphasize is that Zion is not necessary as a dumping ground. The Architect knows who has unconsciously rejected the Matrix (how else do you think he's able to measure what percentage rejected it), and if his sole desire was to get rid of them, he could just have their physical bodies dumped (their RSI's in the Matrix would drop dead, and would be explained as a freak occurrence).
So Zion has a purpose apart from getting rebels out of the Matrix. Its purpose is wrapped up in the One. The One's purpose is wrapped up in the integral anomaly. And if the Architect can't get rid of the original problem (people rejecting the Matrix), then the next best thing is to get rid of the resulting integral anomaly. So everything about the prophecy, the Path of the One and Zion is just so the Architect can clean out the programming of the Matrix.
