Upgrade Master buff overides "Martial Arts Prowness" and "Firearms Skill", both which are damage buffs for MA and Gunmen, however, you can apply the UGM buff and use find weakness at the same time, this needs to be fixed.
No clear indicator it's a bug, but eh, I guess it's a valid complaint. Is Serene Calm stacking with Hyper Deflect and not the others a "bug?" .. etc.
I don't care either way what the decision on this is as I rarely use buffs in PvP, I'm just curious to see what the devs have to say. After all, many said Firearms Skill shouldn't stack with Line Up The Shot, but then we found out it was supposed to. ./shrug
Using Line Up The Shot in conjunction with Firearms Skill is perhaps an anomaly. However, the damage output after activation is similar to that of the state specials of other classes. The fact that Sniper Shot alone doesn't have a 100+ DPS warrants an extra damage upgrade, as this is obviously a Sniper's primary weapon. Overall, I think it's one of those things that won't yield 100% agreement amongst the community, but will probably remain regardless.
Anyway, I digress. Apologies for wandering a little far off the reservation there.
Bayamo wrote:I don't care either way what the decision on this is as I rarely use buffs in PvP, I'm just curious to see what the devs have to say. After all, many said Firearms Skill shouldn't stack with Line Up The Shot, but then we found out it was supposed to. ./shrug Using Line Up The Shot in conjunction with Firearms Skill is perhaps an anomaly. However, the damage output after activation is similar to that of the state specials of other classes. The fact that Sniper Shot alone doesn't have a 100+ DPS warrants an extra damage upgrade, as this is obviously a Sniper's primary weapon. Overall, I think it's one of those things that won't yield 100% agreement amongst the community, but will probably remain regardless.Anyway, I digress. Apologies for wandering a little far off the reservation there.
exsuscito wrote:Bayamo wrote:I don't care either way what the decision on this is as I rarely use buffs in PvP, I'm just curious to see what the devs have to say. After all, many said Firearms Skill shouldn't stack with Line Up The Shot, but then we found out it was supposed to. ./shrug Using Line Up The Shot in conjunction with Firearms Skill is perhaps an anomaly. However, the damage output after activation is similar to that of the state specials of other classes. The fact that Sniper Shot alone doesn't have a 100+ DPS warrants an extra damage upgrade, as this is obviously a Sniper's primary weapon. Overall, I think it's one of those things that won't yield 100% agreement amongst the community, but will probably remain regardless.Anyway, I digress. Apologies for wandering a little far off the reservation there. Sniper Shot doesn't have high DPS because of the cast timer. If Sniper Shot had 100 DPS with it's current cast timer, it would be extremely overpowered.
That's my point. When Firearms Skill is coupled with Line Up The Shot, the damage output is comparable to the high-damage specials of the other classes.
I couldn't agree more, if SS had 100+ DPS it would do 2k damage, and be grossly overpowered.
I don't think it's that hard to get Bayamos' point. He's saying that there are several abilities out there that common sense tells us they shouldn't stack but they do, maybe UGM and FW was one of them. Either way, I don't think it'd make much difference anyway. I don't remember the last time I saw a machine UGM. To those implying that MKTs are overpowered: L2PVP, youknowwhat.
I don't disagree that the application of common sense reveals some flaws in the stacking of particular abilities. I was just pointing out that in the context of the OP's point, it didn't compare. Regarding the MKT comment, I couldn't agree more.
