Sati - machine importance?

**RemagDiv** · 08/01/2007 00:43:57

I'd like to start off saying I'm fairly disappointed that Sati has not been used as much as I thought. I was thinking she would play a much bigger role after Revolutions and in MxO, but so far she has not done anything worth writing home about, except being kidnapped by the General. I think the main problem is MxO's engine doesn't support the framework of a child, as it's been seen that she gets distorted like a rubber band. If they could fix this then it would help to introduce her in-game for more interaction. Here's hoping to more involvement in the future.

Anyway, I was completing machine archives and I stumbled across something Agent Gray said in 7.2.4 that made me think:

We know that without Sati, the weather patterns in the Matrix would go on a fritz, as we see this happen firsthand when the General kidnapped her, the weather was abnormal and even could cause bluepill attention. In this way, she is important to the machines to keep the weather patterns stable, but they also acknowledge that the Oracle is her tutor. Now, I'm sure the Oracle tutors her more than just the importance of the sky. Even so, it is strange that the Oracle could know of such techniques such as regulating the Matrix's weather patterns. We also see they acknowledge her improvement on the efficiency of her skills, but for what reason? Why would she need a tutor, and why would they be concerned over progression if her sole purpose was to raise the sun, to her it's a fairly simple task.

Again, just something I found interesting. As for her true purpose, that's up for debate and has been debated for a long time. I personally believe that one day she could possibly unscorch the sky in the real. Many people overlook a very important quote that the Oracle said not in the movies, but in the game Enter the Matrix, in saying "she's important to both our world and your world" (perhaps not word for word, but similar). By "your" she's basically saying the real world, but for what, and more importantly, how? Unfortunately, it seems unlikely now, especially with the truce being terminated recently.

**Fractor**

Yeah it's a shame players can't talk to her in-game because of the distortion issue then we might know more about her. I think the Oracle could be tutoring her on how to be an Oracle like her for when she's gone, which I thought would come true when the General had an Oracle kill code. Seraph seems to be protecting Sati more than the Oracle and Seraph's philosophy is to 'protect that what matters most' so that shows how important Sati is.

**RemagDiv**

The next Oracle is a possibility, an another meaning to how she is going to be important for both worlds, however regulating the weather is just something odd, not something an Oracle would be concerned about or something the Oracle could do at will.

**RemagDiv**

Another interesting dialog on Sati by Malphas:

There is a purpose behind the constant supply of cookies that the Oracle gives to Sati. We do not really know the programs that these cookies possess when eaten, however I am guessing it gives her knowledge of the Matrix, perhaps increasing the efficiency of Sati's own code, or even the Oracle transfering her own code to Sati.

**RemagDiv**

No one else has any perspectives or interest in Sati?

**Vallant**

"Absorbing an amount of Oracle code" gives me the impression of a re-write or a safety installation? An extension of power? Did Neo's "foresight" come from the cookie he ate or was it a natural foresight? >_>

I dunno, instead of thinking of Sati I've gone off on other strands brought up by that line now >.<

Wallflower26

Vallant wrote:

"Absorbing an amount of Oracle code" gives me the impression of a re-write or a safety installation? An extension of power? Did Neo's "foresight" come from the cookie he ate or was it a natural foresight? >_>

I dunno, instead of thinking of Sati I've gone off on other strands brought up by that line now >.<

Very good topic Mr. Remag.

My suspicions about the Oracle are greater deepened by the knowledge or idea of the cookie codes Sati eats.

I have never thought about that before but now seeing what other characters have said during missions it makes me think the reason she hasn't done anything yet is because of The Oracle. Another form of control from the machine world if you will.

If she is her mentor or Tutor perhaps she is feeding her the codes she wants Sati to learn. She could still be the one who controls the Matrix (Oracle).

I have not till this day trusted the Oracle and I believe it's possible Sati could be a pawn in the greater scheme of things.

It is certainly a idea to explore.

**CrimsonKiller01**

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Sati an Exile? The reason I ask is this, if we go from the movies the Oracle explains that a program exiles to the matrix to escape deletion. Now we see her father and mother boarding the train with her to the Matrix to drop her off there (as per the deal with the Merovingian). Since she controls the weather patterns would she have had that job in the Machine world? If she exiled to the Matrix wouldn't another faster, efficient program be doing the job she had? So now I am wondering if it really is Sati controlling the weather or someone else and she just "notices" the changes...

**Othinn1**

CrimsonKiller01 wrote:

If she exiled to the Matrix wouldn't another faster, efficient program be doing the job she had?

Sati was sent into exile because she didn't have a purpose. There was no Program that replaced her because there was nothing to replace.

Devaude-TGS

I think the Oracle wants Sati as her predecessor and She's the one who will get the Oracle's eyes.

**Roukan**

CrimsonKiller01 wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Sati an Exile? The reason I ask is this, if we go from the movies the Oracle explains that a program exiles to the matrix to escape deletion. Now we see her father and mother boarding the train with her to the Matrix to drop her off there (as per the deal with the Merovingian). Since she controls the weather patterns would she have had that job in the Machine world? If she exiled to the Matrix wouldn't another faster, efficient program be doing the job she had? So now I am wondering if it really is Sati controlling the weather or someone else and she just "notices" the changes...

Rama Kandra and that chick MADE Sati out of love. Kinda. It was like 2 programs having a child that was superpowerful.

Here's another question, can all programs make children, and if so, will they all be powerful?

I refer you to the cinematic where The Merovingian and Persephone were going at it.

**Croesis**

Othinn1 wrote:

CrimsonKiller01 wrote:
If she exiled to the Matrix wouldn't another faster, efficient program be doing the job she had?

Sati was sent into exile because she didn't have a purpose. There was no Program that replaced her because there was nothing to replace.

Sati didn't have a purpose... but now after seeing that weather patterns can be manipulated by her and the comments by Gray, it seems that the Machines deem that she does now have a purpose and that the Oracle has the ability to guide and watch over her.

**CrimsonKiller01**

Ok I understand that she was a product of two programs "love", there still is the question of how she is able to handle weather patterns. I'm not saying she can't do it (cause obviously she can).

Put it this way. If i was a program in charge of weather (and there has to be , because the Oracle said as much to Neo) Right now i would be a little puzzled as to why the weather is deviating from what I set it out to do.

Maybe being able to manipulate the weather patterns is just one of her "talents'. In a way maybe she is the Machine version of a potential?

**Paige6**

Croesus wrote:

Othinn1 wrote:
CrimsonKiller01 wrote:
If she exiled to the Matrix wouldn't another faster, efficient program be doing the job she had?

Sati was sent into exile because she didn't have a purpose. There was no Program that replaced her because there was nothing to replace.

Sati didn't have a purpose... but now after seeing that weather patterns can be manipulated by her and the comments by Gray, it seems that the Machines deem that she does now have a purpose and that the Oracle has the ability to guide and watch over her.

She didn't have a purpose when created because she wasn't created by the machines. Rama Kandra and his wife created her, and then feared that the machines would find out about her and take her away from them (putting her to use...giving her a purpose). That's why they were going to the trainman to try to get her moved out of the Matrix so she couldn't be taken away.

**Denary**

Paige6 wrote:

Croesus wrote:
Othinn1 wrote:
CrimsonKiller01 wrote:
If she exiled to the Matrix wouldn't another faster, efficient program be doing the job she had?

Sati was sent into exile because she didn't have a purpose. There was no Program that replaced her because there was nothing to replace.

Sati didn't have a purpose... but now after seeing that weather patterns can be manipulated by her and the comments by Gray, it seems that the Machines deem that she does now have a purpose and that the Oracle has the ability to guide and watch over her.

She didn't have a purpose when created because she wasn't created by the machines. Rama Kandra and his wife created her, and then feared that the machines would find out about her and ~~take her away from them (putting her to use...giving her a purpose). That's why they were going to the trainman to try to get her moved out of the Matrix so she couldn't be taken away.~~

Actually they were afraid that the Machines would delete her, thats why they went to the Matrix so that she could live as an exile, although she seems to have been given a purpose so the Machines find her useful now.