[8.3.5] Mach mission feedback thread: "Terminate"

**Rarebit**

Scheduled for tomorrow.

**Shinryu**

Sounds simple enough... *chuckles*

**Procurator**

If this involves doing something horrible and permanent to Colt or - I pray to the heavens - Niobe, I'll be very pleased.

**odj**

Procurator wrote:

If this involves doing something horrible and permanent to Colt or - I pray to the heavens - Niobe, I'll be very pleased.

They would never do something like that in a mission, maybe a live event if your lucky or if not that a cinematic.

**Procurator**

Don't forget that we supposedly killed Wright in a mission. Of course, I don't believe she's dead, but...

**xenin**

Procurator wrote:

If this involves doing something horrible and permanent to Colt or - I pray to the heavens - Niobe, I'll be very pleased.

And yet another example of Machinists blood thirsty way's. From that comment you sound sensitive to any insult, true Insults are not to be taken lightly, but one should not respond with death and destruction. Still, Don't let me stop you from your ignoble cause and ways.

**Procurator**

You what? Dude, if we kill either of them we'll be doing you a favour. Niobe's been a pain in the posterior since Day 1; that whole business with Unlimit was entirely her fault. And you know Colt's gonna do something (more) stupid and get you into trouble.

It's not like I'm going after all of Zion, is it? I have no desire to kill Ghost, for example. Unless he ventures into the Matrix, in which case he's subject to the blanket rule that Zionites are not allowed in the Simulation.

**Croesis**

Mmmhmmm... we're at War, they wouldn't hesitate returning the sentiment I'm sure....

**xenin** · 10/31/2007 17:15:36

Procurator wrote:

You what? Dude, if we kill either of them we'll be doing you a favour. Niobe's been a pain in the posterior since Day 1; that whole business with Unlimit was entirely her fault. And you know Colt's gonna do something (more) stupid and get you into trouble.

It's not like I'm going after all of Zion, is it? I have no desire to kill Ghost, for example. Unless he ventures into the Matrix, in which case he's subject to the blanket rule that Zionites are not allowed in the Simulation.

The Only pain being caused here is by The Stupidity of The Machines and their Mindless Programs and operatives. The only acceptable condition would be for The Machines to cease all hostilities and to make reperations to Zion. After which, we will negotiate on other matters that need adressing. Also Zion does not recognise Your foolish idea of not being allowed in the Matrix, for to leave it is to endanger future extractions which must occur because of the flaws of the simulation, unless you wish the 1% who realise the flaws of the simulation to die?. Plus We believe that The Machines are planning to wipe out all of New Zion.

Also we think at this pont any posting's from any Cypherites wold be stupid and irrelevant.

**Croesis** · 10/31/2007 17:27:29

xenin wrote:

The Only pain being caused here is by The Stupidity of The Machines and their Mindless Programs and operatives. The only acceptable condition would be for The Machines to cease all hostilities and to make reperations to Zion. After which, we will negotiate on other matters that need adressing. Also Zion does not recognise Your foolish idea of not being allowed in the Matrix, for to leave it is to endanger future extractions which must occur because of the flaws of the simulation, unless you wish the 1% who realise the flaws of the simulation to die?. Plus We believe that The Machines are planning to wipe out all of New Zion.
Also we think at this pont any posting's from any Cypherites wold be stupid and irrelevant.

Reparations? Remember who's actions cause the truce to be terminated. How about Zion avoid more casualties and put down their weapons? It takes two to Tango.
Also, I'm sure that the Operatives who have been at the business end of a FM-1500 recognise that when the Machines don't want them there, they mean it. Why would the 1% need die, we Machinists, as Humans ourselves can easily recover the 1% and show them the truth of the world should they wish it.

And what makes you so sure that they want to wipe out new Zion? Because we're at war maybe? Because there are those who wish to wipe out the Machines?

**xenin**

Croesus wrote:

xenin wrote:
The Only pain being caused here is by The Stupidity of The Machines and their Mindless Programs and operatives. The only acceptable condition would be for The Machines to cease all hostilities and to make reperations to Zion. After which, we will negotiate on other matters that need adressing. Also Zion does not recognise Your foolish idea of not being allowed in the Matrix, for to leave it is to endanger future extractions which must occur because of the flaws of the simulation, unless you wish the 1% who realise the flaws of the simulation to die?. Plus We believe that The Machines are planning to wipe out all of New Zion.
Also we think at this pont any posting's from any Cypherites wold be stupid and irrelevant.

Reparations? Remember who's actions cause the truce to be terminated. How about Zion avoid more casualties and put down their weapons? It takes two to Tango.
Also, I'm sure that the Operatives who have been at the business end of a FM-1500 recognise that when the Machines don't want them there, they mean it. Why would the 1% need die, we Machinists, as Humans ourselves can easily recover the 1% and show them the truth of the world should they wish it.

And what makes you so sure that they want to wipe out new Zion? Because we're at war maybe? Because there are those who wish to wipe out the Machines?

Um The Machines must lay down their arms first, to show who really started the War, plus they began the Cypherites so I think they started it and we got fed up with their hypocracy. Also We think they wish to wipe us out because they have not slowed down their advances at all one bit. And what if that 1% doesn't agree with you? you would naturally kill them obviously. Plus to the Machines, Awakened Humans are nothing more than waste to them. We will lay dowqn our arms when you do yours first.

**Croesis** · 10/31/2007 18:00:44

xenin wrote:

Um The Machines must lay down their arms first, to show who really started the War, plus they began the Cypherites so I think they started it and we got fed up with their hypocracy. Also We think they wish to wipe us out because they have not slowed down their advances at all one bit. And what if that 1% doesn't agree with you? you would naturally kill them obviously. Plus to the Machines, Awakened Humans are nothing more than waste to them. We will lay dowqn our arms when you do yours first.

Uhh... Mankind started the war and it has been fought ever since, all the way through previous incarnations of the Simulation. Zion made plans to build a city even with the knowledge that is was against the truce agreed to by Zion and the Machines. The Machines began the Cypherite movement to prevent Zion from waking more than the 1%.

Zion has not stopped their activities against the Machines, increasingly encroaching on Machine territory in order to disrupt it. Also the same could be said for the recently awoken redpills... what if they don't want to join you? If we had your view we would say that they would be killed by Zion, after all you don't like those of us who see the bigger picture...

If awakened Humans were such a waste to the Machines, there would not be any Machinists. Indeed our services would still be required if Zion were to be wiped out, We would have to orientate newly awakened and deal with any Exile threats deemed not extreme enough to require Machine resources in the form of Agent programs. We are far from a waste, we are in fact a valuable asset.
As for laying down our arms... we do that, you'll only take advantage as has been displayed by many pages of Human history... The Machines gave you ample amounts of opportunities to lay down your arms in order to negotiate, but the resounding response was 'No'. Many from Zion wanted this war, so now you have it. If you didn't want to go to war, don't complain to us, complain to those who guided you to it.

**CPT_Starschwar**

Don't bother trying to reason with it, Vinia - I've been trying for years, its just not worth your time and effort.

**MotorZ**

Hey guys-you wanna argue about this stuff, do it in-game. This is for mission feedback, not RP. We don't need a mod to fill half the feedback with POST REMOVED.

**Croesis** · 10/31/2007 18:30:30

kou_urake wrote:

Don't bother trying to reason with it, Vinia - I've been trying for years, its just not worth your time and effort.

Hmm.. perhaps you are right. There was once a time, quite recently actually where I was really willing Zion to negotiate and find common ground to re-instate the truce.. but if this is the example of the attitudes being instilled in their operatives now, then I couldn't care less if New Zion will turn out to be barely a footnote in history.

((Can't help it Z, I <3 teh RP! But you are right, I'll wait for the mission to be released, then comment on it..))