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QUICKlN wrote:

At this point I can only suggest you re-read the Cr2 guide and/or ask Rarebit to explain the MKT to you. I'm not sure why you decided to reference fictional characters as I don't feel this is a "one man saves the world" type of game. If that were true then we would all be "The One". Lastly, "any broken tree or ability can work as a support class"; I'm not sure how to offer an opinion on this remark because that statement is simply not true. In fact I'd be hardpressed to see anyone use MA/Guns/Hacker with only a partial tree and effectively support anything or anyone. Just didn't make much sense to me.

Hmm the topic is being derailed - apologies - but my reference was a general one to spy (to which I offered archtypal examples which I hoped would be universally recognised to illustrate why a spy cannot be regarded purely as a support class)... personally I prefer the Assassin label and that gets the shortest stick of all. My reference to a broken tree is one performing less than 100% in relation to other comparable trees.... assassin and mkt imo should be comparable with MA and gunman (in 1 on1...the spy suffering more if outnumbered) and as of this moment it has been made inferior to both, all other aspects being equal, because the typical IS needed to kill in the spys case exceeds what is available.

Simply excellent!

This is still a serious problem, atm I am avoiding using weapons for free fire because as it takes upwards of 5 steps to return to spy-style in IL - the weapons need to deselect when spy-style is selected as they do when KungFu is selected.

very emotive - time for you to return now SMILEY

Very cool stuff! SMILEY

Good to see the show returned and Spadz pwning the field AGAIN! SMILEY

An Awesome patch from top to bottom - many thanks to the devs for their work here, well worth the wait.......though I will miss not being able to make fun of 'Amy'!

Message Edited by Tytanya_MxO on 07.13.2006 05:28 AM

United you fall, divided you fall the end always remains inevitable!

Shimada I shall enjoy torturing every last thought out of that pretty little head of yours firstly the name of your tailor, I do like the outfit!

Aww the poor Zion and Machine operatives wanted to play in Hel, fraid you just aren't worthy but we are always happy to introduce you to another form of Hell as all those unwelcome visitors soon found out!

I didnt know this was possible either thanks for pointing it out as I do a lot of cross loads this will be invaluable! (dunno why i missed it though I have been talking about wanting this option for ages!)

Very good to have you back SMILEY

Well just interested in other peoples experiences with roll out, as a spy I already have passive buffs to combat evasion but my recent experience have been so consistently poor I decided to code and use shifty technique (is that the one?) which boosts evasion by 80%.....

Last night in pvp using block with shifty technique activated I failed to roll out 4 rounds then died.....in the next combat 3 times it failed before i died.....in the past 3 days, the only way I have found to escape il is to either kill my opponent or die.....is this how it is now or am I missing something vital?

Indeed I am guilty of confusion between combat evasion and contested roll out.....I will have to investigate further thx for the advice.

Murhahahaha he fooled us all in a twist of pure irony he joined the one Merovingian faction not mentioned so far in this thread, but no problemo - Dark Mavericks are uber cool imo (in fact all we merov factions pwn SMILEY

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.....or just make better use of the animations we already have..... for instance make Topsy turvy a normal interlock attack rather than the one off opeining move (which we never see as there are always more effective alternative openers for spies).... there are a lot of redundant animations in the spy tree because the stealth moves are 'one-offs' and you dont really need more than 2/3 in any branch.

A merov faction gets to have the numbers on its side about once in every 20 battles and yet this thread seems only interested in abusing that group. This attitude has been the lame and consistent response of EVERY zion faction I have encountered since day 1, not one has shown themslves willing to face a challenge and employ any degree of skill or strategy other than call in their mates to resolve it (unlike the movies where zion, the protagonist always faced the odds). Lets make sure the blame and the shame rests squarely where it belongs!

Hmm I was going to say I already began a thread on this subject, with a chat log i was hoping people would expand (as I missed the second half), but looking about its gone, the whole thread vanished....was I dreaming?

WAKEY WAKEY.....un sorry, my bad, you can go back to sleep!

LMAO

Cool idea SOE but at this rate you are gonna need a bigger force!!

Poor Niobe she is looking so drawn these days so many of her friends dead lol. It will be difficult to resist the urge to disfigure that Zion troll Niobe, I owe her big time, but business is business....that pleasure will come soon enough! For now the net is cast, we shall see that the General will come to seriously regret his choice of ally.

Three organisation's exist from the movies that we know of, the game already makes little use of any of them in a manner that gives any individuality. A split means further removing the game from the movies and will dilute the inter-organisational story so that individually it becomes negligible. Niobe was a supporter of Morpheus and therefore Neo at the end of Revolutions so her leading a group opposing Neo would be ludicrous....this is the most potentially damaging story to date...sadly it still looks to be happening SMILEY

First Neo, then Trinty, then Morpheus...lol you Zions are getting very sort of leaders or heros to look up to, and just look how vulnerable poor Niobe is these days, she certainly wasnt so pretty after she was introduced to the floor. Without the desperate Zions healing her frantically her time was done and she knew it as she escaped via and emergency Jackout. The General would be wise to reconsider his choice of ally and the wisdom of plotting against the Merovingian or else he will suffer the same fate in due course....Zion run back to your caves and prepare for extinction, Machines bow down, the real Masters of the Matrix are here SMILEY

(Ps many thanks to the LET with another cool showing. - and apologies for the image it doesnt seem to like my resizing!)

lol yeah I can just imagine the thoughts going through Morpheus' head when he was shot, 'Oh I'll recon and....oh bugger!' Its amusing and typical of Zion to cling to such blind faith, every time you die you will recon and yet you fight, as Niobe did, truth is you just dont know when we'll be calling with just the right kind of ammo for you all....you don't know when but you can be sure it will happen.

A fix for the De bug is well worth the delay and more....good going guys that one was essential imo.

Mercio wrote:
rofl, if zion doesnt get the merv then the CSR's will
Now I think your forgetting a couple things.
First Neo?
Fact: Still alive
Second Trinity?
Fact Could still be alive.
Third Morpheus?
FACT: DEFINENTLY STILL ALIVE
Fourth Niobe
Fact: your a fool if you think she is going to die...
The merv's days are numbered...

Aww you can tuck yourself up all snug in your cave and think nice thoughts - yeah they are still alive, partying with Elvis I can see it now lol. Anyways just for you I will rephrase.

Neo: deserted Zion (either via a mild case of death or just stumbling about blindly lol)
Trinity: deserted Zion
Morpheus: Developed insanity, deserted Zion, you actually want this guy back lol
Niobe: embittered, alone, vulnerable and soon to be a minor trophy on my wall SMILEY

Meh I dont care if they are still alive, I'm sure the Merovingian will pay well and I and others like me will happily turn their presumtion of death into cold reality lmao!

Ciego wrote:
***Holds a knife to a Kitten*** Cut the RP or the Kitty get's it :smileymad:

Death to Kittens, I want rp SMILEY

The time the date the place, what more could we ask

Ten little EPN going out to dine, a knife severed the spinal cord and then their were nine.....

Not sure about the exact numbers - I suspect the Merovs do outnumber the machines though it remains close and for the battles to be as intense as they are I feel that opinion is justified. BUT in my experience it is the Merovs that bare the brunt of any 3 org attack with Machines joining Zion in preference to ourselves on a disturbingly regular basis....? (actually as its vaguely in line with the story I can usually live with that frustration albeit contrary to the best pvp experience.)

Message Edited by Tytanya_MxO on 08-22-2005 12:47 PM

MaRKiE wrote:
what does the truce give machines? the only threat to the machines is dead. (neo in case some people are slow)

What are zion gonna do if the truce breaks down? Zion need that truce alot more than machines do.

Anyway, Niobie is most likley violating the truce with her actions.

The machines get absolutely nothing from the truce, so why do they persist with it is the question you need to ask. Two reasons as far as I can see.

1. They are too dumb to actually realise they could win the war.

2. The truce suits them more than anyone else, Machines crave a purpose and that purpose is sustaining mankind

Either answer demonstrates that the Machines are deviod of imagination and have no plan beyond maintaining a status quo. A static world is not consistent with evolution and will die, you are giving support to a self defeating system and should consider your allegiance carefully. Within the Matrix Evolution places the exiles and us redpills at the very top of the chain, be smart enough to take control and eliminate the Zion disease of misguided idealism.

As Reg says I Think the opposite is true knives land better in IL for me at least....though specials such as leg sweep seem less successful, I suspect the 'special buff boost to ct has been reduced.

Rxu wrote:
God created man
Man created machine
Machine destroyed man

But Man as Gods creation shall destroy the machines and all evil that has come from them . One of the reasons why man is far superior than any program is the ability to design our own purpose.

Evil is a perspective of man and nothing more, ignore the niaeve ideals of Zion or the dogmatic and blinkered logic of the machines and think of what we have become within the matrix... the reality of your little statement is larger

Machine evolves to Exile

Man evolves to Redpill

Those that deny evolution become extinct. The future offers redpills three simple choices Join us, Bow down or be slaughtered......... Niobe has obviously made her choice but what about you?

Message Edited by Tytanya_MxO on 01-27-200604:48 AM

Aww Pblade I've owned enough Zions to demonstrate my effectiveness in battle and by my ability to remain alive has frustrated many for a long time... but as ever I am always delighted for my enemies to underestimate me, ignorance has its own reward and each death inflicted on a zion rsi increases the statistical probability of that final fatal corrupted recon.....hmm physically you and Niobe already share so much in common with a vegetable its a fate you can count on sugar!

It looks interesting but the recent admission of limited customisation of your avatar and an extension of MxO's (already frustrating) 'you are what you wear' - is a real let down for a new mmo imo

Its an mmofps????? How dissapointing, if that is the case I will have to scratch it from my list of things to look forward to SMILEY

I'll see what i can do, but its 2am for me on a day before work, so if I dont make it have fun SMILEY

Mercio, poor Mercio so lost you are without your mentor, he is gone, lost forever and why because of the choices he made. You are quite wrong Causality is the ONLY true law between the Matrix and what you choose to believe is the real world choice and consequence are just words for the very same thing cause and effect. Morpheus's fate should be an example not an inspiration, his choices, his teachings have one consequence, one effect, death! The Matrix is not something to be abhorred it is an oppertunity to be exploited, as things stand only the Merovingian acknowledges that truth, realise it yourself or follow your 'hero' and his Organisation into extinction.

How about making the /duel option available to all but only in Dojo's (as HJ breaks a duel anyway no additional restriction). This kinda promotes the environment as opposed to just letting anything happen anywhere?

Regulus wrote:

ehh...I don't like the timer on any external heals idea...its fun to fight an agent or something and have people healing you...but I still stick with what I said earlier, 5 or more seconds on the health pill timer would be good.

This is my thinking no way should Heals be able to be taken in consecutive rounds of combat

What goes around comes around, you got much bigger problems now, how will the 'righteous' deal with this one lmao!

http://mxo.stormdesign.org/content/audio/Cryptos_4.mp3

The zerg isn't Zion its just an overwhelming force.....

This thread was opened prior to the release of cr2 because I foresaw the new combat system adding to the effectiveness of 'having numbers on your side'. Sadly nothing was done and numbers have indeed become even more effective.....

Specifically the problem of IL means that to enter IL while you are on a team of players of lesser number than your foe, places you at an even greater disadvantage than ever before, a buff to defense against external attacks for those people engaged in IL (while they are in IL only) would have made ma and gunmen a lot more confortable in large scale battles and would have avoided many of the complaints that caused the nerfs the ranged classes have had to endure since then. (targetting 'the situation' where a class becomes weaker relative to another rather than a broad sweep nerf impacting negatively over an entire class would provide a much better balance to all)