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Everyone, except deviljenny, is invited to party at Club Polyvinyl in Mara C on Halloween at the above times!

We have plenty of fun and games planned, despite all the creepy goings on, so bring your goody bags...and don't forget your clamors

Hope you can join us!

(Please note, In Europe our clocks went back, so for anyone outside of Europe the times will be moved forward by one hour. IE: 5pm EST, 4pm CST and 2pm PST)

((Eh, so I rather struggled to come to terms with this truce breaking IC because it rather spits all over my character. My reasons for staying with the org/faction are almost all OOC as IC I struggle to justify recent events, however I'm not an Rp'er first and foremost, so I will not leave my faction or my org for OOC reasons and will have to take on the task of justifying my reasons for remaining.))

Systematic Chaos stood for the truce, since it was formed. There has always been some back and forth between Machines and Zion about trucebreakers and siding with terrorists. However, I don't think any of us saw this day coming, at least so soon. We've now tried gathering as much information as possible, on the decisions that were made.

Last night, I took a stand like the DoE did. I refused to attack those Zionites at the Chelsea-Maribeau bridge. Why? In a time like this, knee jerk reactions and blind faith is what will get us stuck in a rut. We had no time for discussion, reaction, reflection after Torman informed us of the breaking of the truce and that is completely idiotic. Running into a battlefield all guns blazing, shoot first ask questions later is Inefficient and it's something we're fighting against. In a situation as tense and as difficult as this? Sense is required, patience. That being said, some of my faction mates assisted as they felt that was the thing to do. Fair game, each to their own. We were still in the process of discussing our stance amongst council members. Now we have gathered as much information as possible, we bring you our stance.

We still stand for the truce. It is our priority to achieve peace with mankind again. Peace and working together for a better future, that is what we were always working towards with Zion and this truce still intact. We are willing to meet with anyone who wants to discuss peace, to try and find a way to create said peace. That being said, those Zion factions who are not interested in rebuilding the truce, they are our enemies. I'd like to point out that, inviting E Pluribus Neo to the meeting was a big mistake, an immediate negative step in rebuilding. Some of E Pluribus Neo will attempt to manipulate you all so that there is no way back for human-machine prosperity. So, those of us who want to work to re-instate the truce? We're already at a loss here and need to make up for lost time. ((It's much easier to hold relations with Zion factions that want a truce on recursion/syntax than it is on vector ^_^))

One thing I'd like to focus on is the Zion council. For all those that are still interested in building a world where we work hand in hand for a better future, might want to consider why the Zion council made such an important decision without informing any of you. Such an important decision, without even one little mention? Without discussing it with the Machines to actually get clarity on what the reprocussions would be? It just seems rather strange. The council seem to have pulled the wool over all of your eyes in a rather manipulative move which is nothing short of what we've seen before and some EPN are doing their best to manipulate you too. As Procurater of The Glitch Society wisely said, there is no plan in place to wage all out war and send every sentinal in Zero One down to New Zion. Hostilities have not picked up in the real, the only true place you can lose your life nowadays. So, the result of the truce being called off at the moment? We no longer allow Zion to awaken the 1% and if found in any restricted areas, such as downtown Agents will begin to track them. There will be no disruption to them in Richland. So, taking up arms as if we are now in World War 4 is a little naive. Negotiation and Diplomacy is the way forward here, those who don't see it that way and take up arms against us? They will be struck down as terrorists.

I can see why the machines called off the truce, as one of our Officers explained: Why this breaks the Truce: We allowed Zion to awaken bluepills because we always had the option of destroying their entire colony of humans if we needed to. With this, "New Zion," this option is no longer available. This is a violation of the Truce. Personally, I feel this is pre-emptive and I struggle to justify, pre-emptively calling of the truce because of what could happen. However, I do see the point of view "what need is there for a new city? Aslong as they keep to the truce nothing will happen". Truthfully, we accept that the Machines somewhat forced Zion into this building a new city, sending Cypherites after them to kill and torture them was as good as breaking the truce, much like overwriting blue pills was; however, discussions needed to be had instead of building this new city. If we had discussed things? We might not be making this statement. Both sides have to take their share of the blame and come to the table and accept that. Both sides, need to make allowances.

The Cypherites? Our stance doesn't change with them. If the situation arrises, like what happend with Sarv who lied to bluepills when awakening them and killed his own first mate after lying to him when he awakend him, then perhaps our help is warranted. However, we won't go out of our way to aid them and we will not welcome them with open arms, just as we will not rule out definitively that we won't work with them in some capacity. We will NOT work with Cypherites to attack Zion directly, or those Zion who are willing to rebuild this truce.

With all that said, our enemies are those who immediately take up arms against the Machines and have no interest in the progression of mankind hand in hand with the Machines, the ones who have no interest in diplomacy and those who would rather take up arms with those in E Pluribus Neo that try to manipulate your anger, in a fit of rage rather than help get everyone back on track. The rebuilding of the truce is our priority, those who hinder us in that are our enemies.

((This statement is formed for Recursion/Syntax, it varies slightly with what was mentioned in our Vector one because of differences on instances.))

http://youtube.com/watch?v=naLbJKDszHw

funny **bleep**, just a **bleep** take of pokemon, enjoyed them beating the **bleep** out the pikachu doll lol.

most of this makes sense except the bit at the beginning that i can make no sense of however flaws can be found in parts of the theories however still intresting have a look.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=loose+change+alex+jones+conspiracy

im building a collection up of rare rpgs for ps1 like legend of mana and kartia etc etc, just wondering what ones people own or know of that are hard to find/expensive nowadays, also rpg's that were only released in the US for ps1 and 2 that in your opinion or worth buying.

ok guys, being from the UK we lack serious exposure to anime and manga cartoons. the best we had over here was when Outlaw Staw, Gundam Wing, Dragonball,z,gt and cowboy be-bop were on...other than that we have never really had any good anime/manga shows. I know of ones shown in america such as Rurouni Kenshin and a couple of others... but the standard of the cartoons shown in the UK now has slipped dramatically some may argue they werent that high in the first place so i want you guys to reccomend to me cartoons that are worth downloading and if someone could explain to me how Gundam wing links to Gundam seed that would be great.

thanks.

ok so ive followed a tutorial to create animated rain, problem is its not animated, its saved as a gif so it should work, dunno whats wrong with it any ideas? here is what the tester looks like

we need to have some sort of indication of if a player is tactic boosted or not - I don't mind it in pvp as it's there to be utilised, and as much of a compliment as it is, if a player boosts against me before a duel it pisses me off to no end. What i would like to see is some sort of indicator that a player is boosted whether that be an icon next to there name or whether like a state shows on a target if they are stated under their health bar it shows up there, then so be it, aslong as we can have some kind of visual representation if a player is boosted or not then that'd be great imo.

For Trace.

I would like to begin, by saying that I am about to write a story that I never thought I would write. I'm going to bring an end to my own character, NightTrace. I'm going to go over a small bit of history, and then I will continue with the story. NightTrace, has been a member of the Mega City Department of Energy, from the first day he jacked in to the Matrix, to the last day he jacked in. He left the employment of that group going on two hours before his last mission, and after that, this story takes over. I am not deleting the character, but I have no plans to ever reactivate the account. If I am to ever come back to the Mega City, it will be as someone else all together, and I'll probably avoid ever letting it be known who I am, basing my decision off of the actions that led to my removal of our community. Thanks for the 2 1/2+ years.

It was raining that night, the sky not so much black from the storm clouds, but a pure empty void.
The rain was comforting though, its icy chill bringing some peace to his own inner turmoil.
He had gone against everything he had said for more then a year...that the Cypherites were the embodiment of the poor decisions of the Machines. That they did not deserve help, and if anything, they deserved to die.
Yet that night, he had gone with them, and he had helped kill.
Members of Zion, veterans of the "Old War" all, had their signals locked down, and were killed.
Because of who they were, or to be more specific, because of who they used to be.
They were on outdated list, and so they were killed.
Not because their current positions in Zion made them valuable targets, but just because it was possible.
Senseless violence, and he had helped.
His hands gripped the stone railing harder...then his hand bunched into a fist and his punched the stone as hard as he could.
The dull pain reminded him that he was still alive.
He had left his ship today, the Transom...he had been its first mate.
They docked, and he just walked into the depot, and went to one of the barges and jacked in from an empty table.
He didn't leave a note, and he didn't say a word to the men and women he had worked with for two years.
He knew, that today was going to be the end..and maybe the start of something new.
He didn't know who he was anymore...faces started to flash through his mind...the faces of loves long gone...Alice...Sallo...but he didn't even know if that was true, who was he, to be so arrogant as to say he knew what love was.
The words of friends drifted past his ears, and he remembered days that made him proud...the KoN and the Department, working together to strengthen the Truce, to bring down the General..so many great moments...Symmetric, Musutangu, Fenshire, Venetrix, all of them had joined the ranks of the Mega City Department of Energy, and each of them did so because they believed in making things better.
Things never got better.
Things always stayed the same... or got worse.
Then the Truce broke...and everything died. Hope...working together...the future.
Each side blamed the other, and honestly it was everyones fault, because no one was in it alone.
But when was the last time you heard someone admit that?
He had tried, tried to bring reason, but Zion expected him to seig heil, and step in line to their tune.
They wanted someone to tell them that they were right, and that the Mechs were the ones who had done everything wrong.
The mechs just wanted to blame it on Zion.
Neither side right, neither side wrong.
Both so far gone, that they would never come back to the way things needed to be.
He turned, and picked up the long case he had left leaning against the door. He set it down on the floor and unzipped it, inside was a long rifle. Though it was a tad archaic compared to some of the weapons that people liked to wield anymore, he had a love for older rifles. This one was a mint condition Moison Nagant, the wood smooth as silk, the metal polished to a fault.
He knew that in this place, how old a gun was didn't matter, the code that formed the rifle, was the same throughout.
He knew that it was ones skill over the manipulation of the code that led to the quality of the weapon.
And he knew, that everything he did was being seen.
After all, he had used one of the "public tables" to jack in.
Every request he made, was watched, and every move he made was recorded.
He had betrayed his friends, and he had betrayed his own ideals.
Once he had broken, there was no more hope.
He was dead inside.
And that was why he was there.
There would be no peace across the City he had grown to love.
No peace between Zion and the Machines.
No peace between man and machine.
No peace.
But he would have his peace.
He wouldn't jack in every day, hoping to make a small difference, and feel ashamed when nothing was accomplished.
Never again.
Not anymore.
He raised the rifle to his shoulder, his eye peering down the small scope.
Through the crosshairs he could see his target.
And the target looked up at him, with a face that could have been made from steel.
Behind him, the hammer of a pistol cocked.
Less then a second later, it fired.
The round caught him right above the back of his neck.
He was dead before his body even fell forward, tumbling over the roofs edge.
The target lifted two fingers to the side of his head, and acknowledged the report. Then went about his business.
NightTrace had peace at last.

Inspired by Bayamos' "What are you listening to" thread, tell Data Node One what you're watching.

Be that a movie, a tv show or a theatre production, whatever.

'Love is the Drug'

Ok, so after finally running missions for noobs recently i realised that now, instead of the item dropping on the floor when you have a full inventory, it actually just fails the mission! This is a great hinderance when my inventory is full of items which all have some use to me day to day.

What i find most annoying is i find myself recycling items to accomodate stacks of keys (specifically in archive missions) and a few empty slots so that i don't end up failing the mission when i take the item to finish the phase.

Is there a way to solve this? (other than keep less items in my inventory) As it's a pretty annoying feature.

On vector i use a specific loadout where i almost completely load expert rifleman, all of sniper and some abilities from the other gunman trees which i'd rather not reveal...why is it that on Vector my title is a "Rifleman" but on Recursion - with the exact same loadout it's "Gunslinger". On vector i much prefer my title as it suggests the load is first and foremost, a ranged build. However it's rigged to last in IL so if someone pulls me in at half health or less i've a high chance of finishing them. This catches my enemy by suprise due to my "Rifleman" title. However for some reason on Recursion it appears as Gunslinger which doesn't fit the load out.

Ok, there is a lot of people complaining about balance issues with MKT, not enough defence or resistance...

Well, Zen Master was made to counter Hacker in cr1, with cr2 there was no need for it to counter hacker...however with the small issues that there are with MKT and other trees lacking in defence..perhaps they should introduce Zen Master with added thrown defence and resistances.

That being said, MA's don't have *that* much trouble with MKT's. However, it's just an idea...

Im getting this white pages with the message..

An Error Has Occurred

Please use your browser's back button and try again.
Reason: Your session has expired.

Everytime i try to load a page, i have to refresh and hope for the best that it doesn't do it 2-3 times in a row, it also does it in peoples sig spaces. If i manage to post its very lucky, it's only the mxo forums im having trouble with, no other sites at all.

I guess i have just lost intrest now like so many others, many of my old Heuristic friends have gone, i doubt many of the people on the forums or in game know me very well at all because i wasnt able to get to know many of you due to the way this server is these days too much spite and hatred for stupid reasons. Im either going to quit completely or suspend my account, either way i think ill make my decision when this big update comes or perhaps before, i feel that will be a critical point for many people, perhaps a critical point for the game, important times ahead for mxo methinks, if they pull off a successful update i think it could attract many of the old players back but if they fail it could push most of us away. Anyways i'd like to thanks whoever is left from Heuristic, Machines, Zion and Merv alike for making this a fun game for the best part of 6 months, certainly i'd like to give a thanks to the now non existant Pheonix Guard faction(those were the days) and RiP(good times). Its been fun everyone and if i ever insulted people, no hard feelings eh?! its just a game after all lol

Alrighty, this is a copy-pasta of the thread made originally by Gitano and then maintained by Havocide. So props go to them for the vast majority of this. Since Havocide is currently unsubbed, in order to update this page I've made a new post and added a few changes to it aswell. I'm hoping to grab everyones org thats on this list so that new players looking to join a specific org know who to contact and who not to about doing so. Perhaps updating faction tags might also be worthwhile as someone looks to join a faction. Players who are unsubbed I will score out but keep on the list so that when they return they can become active in helping new players again, though they themselves might need to seek people on this list out but please inform me if anyone is unsubbed and I don't have them scored out. Please, make any suggestions as to things that can be added to this list to help make things easier for new players and if you know faction/orgs of players on the list that I either don't have or have gotten wrong, please feel free to inform me, thanks.

If you wish to be on the list please PM me your handles and il add them on!

Welcome new players and existing! We have compiled a list of Operatives within the Matrix who are on hand to offer any form of assistance that they can. This is your chance to get the help you need other than waiting for replys to posts on the forum. Though they are replied to quickly anyway, getting in touch with someone first hand is that much easier in game.

The Aim: "Is to provide a list of experienced players so that new and even older players can contact them in-game for help. Our hope is that between these two threads we can offer prospective
players a much easier time learning the ropes and a much better first
impression of MxO. Bring on the fun!"

To contact anyone on the same server, you simply have to type in the chat box /tell or just /t for short ((Their name and then your message)) EG: /tell Yasamuu Hello.

Using either /tell or /t will result in a message being sent to the player, for the purpose of simplicity though, we'll just continue with /tell in the rest of this guide. So, what should appear on your screen is this:
"Whisper to Yasamuu>Hello".

If you are on say Syntax and you wanted to contact me on Vector, then the code you need to type in the chat box is : /tell vector-hostile.((Their name))     EG: /tell vector-hostile.Yasamuu Hello .
Again this is what the end result should be:
"whisper to Vector-hostile.Yasamuu>Hello"

Heres a list of the codes needed to contact anyone:

/tell name                      ((For contacting someone on thesame server as you))
/tell syntax.name            (( To contact someone on syntax if you're on another server))
/tell recursion.name      (( To Contact someone on Recursion if you're on another server))
/tell vector-hostile.name    (( To contact someone on Vector-Hostile if you're on another server))

So here it is:

Syntax
Gitano - Zion
Havocide - EPN
Zimmermann
TheThirdMan
Tiango - Machine - The Glitch Society
Tenshi916 - Machine - Sentience
Amador5069
CloudWolf - Zion - Omega Syndicate
Shinryu - Machine - The Watchmen
BioodWork - Machine - The Tetragrammaton
Eleutherophobia - Machine
TPaine
Dragonram - Merovingian
phiOZ
Hexplode
Lbomb
XXT - Zion
Rosti
HostileIntention - Machine - Sentience
Reeverb - CYPH - INGSOC
DarkAngelus2
Darkangeius
Shayel - Machine - The Tetragrammaton          - Speaks Italian, Spanish, English
Michael1
SolidRevolver - Zion - Section 9
Oriyx
MysticTravi - Machine - SOCA                         - Speaks English and German
Drgero                                 - Spaniah and English
Siephos                                 - English and Danish
Kellner - CYPH                   - English, German, little bit of Dutch
lHydrazine - EPN - E Pluribus Neo
Sputnik4 - EPN - E Pluribus Neo
Proximisio - Machine
MindsweepX - Zion - The Black Code
RejectKnowledge
Marias - CYPH - Catalyst
Bittype

Recursion

Good, bad, looks good but lacks in a certain quality?

IMO its good. I think they've done a great hob exploiting the vincent story which was so mysterious and there was obviously a lot more to him and his past in FFVII..he was one of the best characters imo..so im glad they released this... i think it does do its self credit, it takes a little while getting used to the game style but once you get used to it and experiment with it its a really good game.

[p]So now that we have different coloured animations for the cookies/rage pills, how about we get one for the Tigers Gi animation, it's been a long time coming and would obviously expell any cries of tb's in tournaments, so therefore free's up the gi to be used more.[/p]

ok so im trying to make a video sig and need to change my avi to .mov file. what program is the best to use for this? i can only find trials that leave their tags on the video.

Ok...

I have an ATI X300 graphics card (Yuck I know, but it came with my dell PC so Im pretty sure replacing it is either impossible or will cause me more issues).

Basically, over the past couple of days anytime I run missions I seem to run into this issue where my pointer starts bugging out and I can't select doors or elevator panels. Body parts seem to go invisible or see through and I either eventually crash out of MxO or my PC crashes.

Any Ideas?

I've tried re-installing drivers, using driver cleaner and deleting any existing old drivers to make sure there's nothing from previous drivers conflicitng.

Just out of intrest any improvements i could make? im still a bit of a photoshop noob learning my trade.. any suggestions?

A simple idea really, born out of farming multiple hair colour pills that correspond with the male version I'm trying to farm but can only seem to get said female version.

How about a collector where you can trade in your female RSI Pill for a male version and vice-versa?

Is there any way we could have some kind of indicator, similar to the one of another team member, that tracks NPC's that you need to make follow you out of a mission zone to another zone.

I'm guessing the other topic got locked for necro. Here was me thinking that bumping topics was better than making the same one twice SMILEY

Anyways, Is there any way we could have some kind of indicator, similar to the one of another team member, that tracks NPC's that you need to make follow you out of a mission zone to another zone.

If we could have like a blue dynamic indicator on the mission map for friendly NPC's you have to make follow you and a red one for your enemies then we could track them too so that if they go walk about and leave the mission area they can be found.

Ok, so, I was talking with a couple of people about Halloween Events in other games and it got me to thinking about how we could do something different to improve our halloween events.

So, what I'm proposing is that the Zombie Virus flags you for free for all PvP(I'd settle for flagging for normal PvP, but it'd be pointless for Vector). If you're bitten by a player or a Zombie, this would flag you to FFA PvP. The Zombies could have a 1/3 chance of dropping 'Flesh' that can be traded for 'Vaccine' or 'Cure', for example, a consumable that would deflag you.

The flesh could have some small scale buffs on it too, I suppose, making it a comsumable too.

This would just give the Zombie Virus a reason to be avoided and could be a bit of fun, in my eyes.

To stop the consumables causing a problem during the normal cycle the 'Vaccine' or 'Cure' would be deactivated and unable to use outside of the Halloween period.

Discuss, shoot down, etc. ;)

Durr, editted for horrible typos.

Who here plays/has played it?

What did everyone think?

For me personally, it was just as good as perhaps better than the original and the original was one tough act to follow. I felt the plot worked well, the actors did a good job and it was just overall a fantastic, gripping watch.

Roll on 28 months later SMILEY

ZOMG *CENSORED* AWESOME :O

Again they continue to amaze with plot twists and answering questions by asking six new questions. Things have been left at a very important junction. The final two episodes of this season were fantastic, I just can't stand the fact I'll be waiting for months to see the next one SMILEY

Also..bad point..

*spoiler below*

Charlie died SMILEY

I didnt get a shot on the server, was in bed :smileymad: but can anyone tell me was there instability issues? because really this just sounds to me like they gave us a little shot at it to keep us happy and will have it down for a couple of days-a week. Maybe im wrong, but i have just come to expect things like this from my time in MxO.

Yeah, it's been a good few years since it was released but it was screened on Channel 4 in the UK about 4-6 weeks ago...I know there's a few of you out there who play that love the movie, but yeah, I thought this film was fantastic. There's some moments that are just indescribable. It does a great job of setting mood, themes, the characters are superb (Bill Murray and Scarlett Johanssen do a fantastic job), it also does a great job of almost having us relate to the turmoil -mid life crisis- Murray's character is going through, which is a great technique, considering most of us aren't and haven't been through one SMILEY

So it's that time of the tennis season again. Wimbledon '07 is upon us. Andy Murray, British number 1 drops out the night before due to injury and British hopes of a Brit getting far in the tournament seem to be dashed. Step up; Tim Henman. The 32 year old has been in freefall over recent years, career seemed to be over and sliding down the ranks from the top 10 in the world to 78. Yet, he seemed to roll back the years and produce a fantastic win against Spaniard Carlos Moya that commanded respect. Just 2 points from going 5-2 down he pulls it back to 4-4 in the final set and eventually goes on to win 13-11. Realistically, there's not much chance of him making the semi-finals like he once did. However, who would bet against it on the back of that performance? He dug deep and showed a lot of guts and skill.

The favourite still has to be Federer, Nadal close behind him. Hopefully the rest of the matches will be of the calibre of Henman-Moya this year though. That was fantastic SMILEY

So, two incidents in two days now.

Glasgow Today

London Yesterday

Is this a sign of things to come over the summer? Or is it just well timed terror plots to inflict more fear upon the nation before the summer has even got under way? One thing I have noticed is that the news readers seem only to call something a "terrorist attack" if those involved are of Asian origin and linked to Al-Quaeda, yet a "terrorist attack" is to cause terror, regardless of your origin you can be a terrorist, just an interesting point I picked up on.

patchable and servers up!

Message Edited by Yasamuu on 01-13-200612:34 PM

You must realize the truth: There is no post. Then you will see it is not the post that has moved, only yourself.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ope/6964586.stm

The Spanish wing back, 22 years of age, of Sevilla FC passed away today in hospital after suffering a heart attack during their 4-1 victory over Getafe on Saturday. He had previously collapsed, twice, but both incidents were quite far apart and during pre-season friendlies in which the heat was thought to be the issue. His death follows the death of Queens Park Rangers youngster Ray Jones in a car crash last Friday and is just the latest in a line of players who have collapsed and later died during a match, Marc Vivien Foe is but one of the many others.

Is it time clubs took a real in-depth look at heart conditions? Presumably medicals are incredibly tough and up to scratch everywhere, Puerta had only just passed a medical for his club three weeks ago, but is there more they can be doing to prevent such a loss to a player with their whole career ahead of them?

.........on mxo was, along with can you fly like neo(... i know.. n00b lol), can you go into the "real world" and travel about zion and the machine city etc. What i want to know is what would people think if this was implemented. I know it wont be.. ever but just thinking along the lines of if it was done what would you like to see done or how would you imagine it would be done...

Matchday 1 has been and gone with a fairly poor showing for all British teams involved. Liverpool were really the only team to come out of Matchday 1 with any kind of "decent" result as a 1-1 in Porto isn't too much of a tragedy, especially with Jermaine Pennant being sent off. Chelsea were held by Rosenborg at home after a lackluster performance. The only real plus point they could take from the game was that Andriy Schevchenko scored. Last..and definitely least of the British sides, Celtic lost 2-0 away to Shaktar. Shaktar, having spent 40m on their team in the summer, ripped Celtic apart in the opening 10minutes and from then on there was only ever going to be one winner, due to Celtics lack of penetration.

Tuesday, 18 September 2007

AC Milan 2-1 Benfia

Chelsea 1-1 Rosenborg

Porto 1-1 Liverpool

Schalke 0-1 Valencia

Shaktar 2-0 Celtic

Marsielle 2-0 Besiktas

Real Madrid 2-1 Werder Bremen

Olympiakos 1-1 Lazio

Results elsewhere and probably the most suprising win of the night was Valencia's 1-0 win away to Schalke. Other than that and the Chelsea match, no real shocks, though Real Madrid made hard work of their opponents Werder Bremen.

Tommorow, we see most importantly () Rangers, Arsenal and Manchester United play.

Wednesday, 19 September 2007

Arsenal v Sevilla, H, 19:45

Barcelona v Lyon, E, 19:45

Fenerbahce v Inter Milan, G, 19:45

PSV v CSKA Moscow, G, 19:45

Rangers v VfB Stuttgart, E, 19:45

Roma v Dynamo Kiev, F, 19:45

Slavia Prague v Steaua Bucuresti, H, 19:45

Sporting v Man Utd, F, 19:45

hit post by accident there, so bear with me....

screenshots from what has to be the best mission or at least the funniest in the history of the game... how did it occur? who knows but it was certainly a once in a lifetime mission... what you are about to see may shock you...

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Message Edited by Yasamuu on 01-27-200605:33 PM

to bed its 2.30 am and im nackered.. not that anyone cares just y'know..

I can't believe I didn't put a bet on, 6-1 to be out of the job before christmas! Would have made a tidy profit on that.

So, I guess I'm going to look at things from an un-biased perspective(as un-biased as someone from Scotland can be, at least) since Scotland were in something a rut a few years ago.

First and foremost, it's no real suprise he was sacked. He underachieved, no doubt about it. England would have expected to qualify from their group that contained no world beaters. Yet they didn't and had a very below-par campaign, despite being thrown 2 or 3 lifelines by israel and getting back to 2-2, only to lose 3-2, against croatia. You look at Scotland and Northern Irelands groups, and you see some real quality sides(3 of the top 4 teams in the world cup, including the winners(Italy) and runners up(France) in Scotlands group and Spain, Denmark and Sweden in Northern Irelands group). And yet, It is Scotland and Northen Ireland who really lit up this Qualifying campaign with some sensational performances. Scotland and Northern Ireland can come away with real pride and a sense of achievement, despite not qualifying(both finishing 3rd a couple of points behind 2nd place). Nobody expected Scotland or Northern Ireland to perform as they did, and take their opponents down to the wire.

Secondly, for me, *some* English fans and most of the media tend to expect their team to win the World Cup and every tournament it enters. I suppose, thats fair enough. Expectations aren't damaging. What isn't fair and what IS damaging is the way they tend to write off opposition teams. I'm still hearing supposed football experts saying, "England should have walked this group". Sorry, but who did they pay off to be classed as experts? Croatia are not world heavy weights, nor are Russia(Who finished above them in the qualifiers). However, what they are is technical masters for football. They are physically sound and their technical ability and skill is far above that of Englands. There is a recurring theme; England losing to technically gifted teams. Russia and Croatias midfield have out played Englands in 3 out of 4 games between the two and England. Last night Modric made himself look like a 30million pound man, against supposed World Class footballers in the form of Lampard and Gerrard. It seems to be the whole footballing world that sees it, except some English fans and most of the media. The way the media tends to write off Englands opposition, to me, transfers onto the players from time to time. The sheer arrogance, to believe that they've already won a game before they've kicked a ball is transfered onto the players and it effects them on the pitch. At the end of the day, if you don't prove it on the pitch that you deserve to win the World Cup, then you don't deserve to.

Thirdly, what would a different manager have done differently? I'm not going to lie, I find it almost baffling that McClaren threw young Scott Carson in goal for only his second appearance in an England shirt in arguably one of the most important games of McClarens managerial career. But besides that and one or two other questionable decisions throughout his two years, is there really any other players that have been missed out in McClarens reign? I'm not so sure that there is much another manager could have done differently in terms of selection of squads.

Again, for me, the problem lies in Englands lack of technical ability, and their lack of understanding in how to overcome a technically better side along with the over-hyping of the team. I suppose, you could argue the manager should teach the players how to battle with technical players, but it's common sense really. It's been the success of Scotland and Northern Ireland this campaign, and the undoing of Englands.

Anyways, Berti Vogts for new England manager!