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agg wrote:
what is ahppening to the spy tree's?   I haven't seen any information about this.

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 they ain't saying.

 WAFO

  wait and find out

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{SoG}Esky wrote:
Some really great ideas going around. I agree with just about everything here.

As for the agent program, yes that definitely needs to be in there, but the only problem is...they need to fix agents first!

Agent spawning animation is so lame, and their ability to persue is even worse. I haven't had an agent spawn on me since...well...since back in April I think.

Note: Said a million times...Make agents a threat to all. Make them able to hyperjump after you, make them able to follow you around for longer than 30 seconds. Make them agents.

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  why do i care if you give them hyper jump? I have hyper speed which, when combined with a nice pair of shoes means i can run away from the agent without trying very hard.  Give them a movement speed tied to yours (the target) or 125% and level 40 hyperjump.  Only the very best could outrun an agent.  Make it tough.

  Next point.  We should not give a new player a whole tree to play with in interlock.  Learning what skills do what and which to use when is learnt as we acquire them.  That many options would confuse.  But make a video as we enter the dojo of 2 RSI's (as in game. like in player videos) fighting at level 50.  Kung Fu verses Aikido or something, as a taster of where you will finish.  "For now you can only be given simple fighting skills as our resources our limited, as you become more experienced you will be able to use better skills and become a more potent force,"

  No hacking tutorial, it is self explanatory. 

 Jump program - a definite...failure..... 'You may try again when you are stronger...'

 That is all i have.  And better clothes to start - cause before we start hunting buffs we should look less lame.

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Tytanya_MxO wrote:

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>revolt_ wrote:
Why *sigh*?

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Clothing has been elevated in importance in cr2 at least for pvp, the best clothes will inevitably end up being the best clothes...variety will be restricted to that subset, yes making it bigger is cool but as our RSI are inherently less strong, the overall need for those uber-items will increase from our present situation.

I confess the importance I placed on the issue is born of ignorance on my part - as I had not appreciated the lesser impact on the hostile servers...on vector these will be a virtual 24/7 need sadly.

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 I don't understand tytanya - Even if we majoritarily wear shielded clothes we will still LOOK different at least.

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LiquidZ wrote:

The eyewear version has odd stats and gives little (I think none) IS regen like it does on live, and has no virial accuracy buffs.

Which is the version we should expect when CR2 goes live?

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>revolt_ wrote:
Uhm, Frog? Can I ask you for a favor?

Now that all the items have been converted over to CR 2.0, do you think you could do anything about the appearance of the Ravenswing/feather jacket? I mean, have you seen a pink raven yet?? Not that there aren't any out there, but still... that jacket looks so rediculous. It would go a long way, if this one jacket's appearance would be changed to something, you know, more matrix-like.

Do you think you could persuade someone responsible for these changes (database technicians or whatever you call them... devs? ) to change the jacket to maybe something... black? =)

I mean, you wanted to bring back fashion back into the game and for that I want to applaud you. But don't stop at the good items.

It's just a small change, non? =)

>revolt_

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 Yes the raven jackets are hideously awful

  Who are you that i should wish to be part of your crew?  Who is the faction? Who are it's notables?

  I have not heard of any of you and that is never a good sign - you want people to follow you be a leader, be renowned, be worthy.

First off any crew that asks for any female RSi's to join it's cause ain't sounding picky.  So yeah i figure i would be accepted - if not then never mind. But a starting crew without the kind of reputation and following of FA tends to want people more than it wants to be selective - especially of higher levels like myself.

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cynic wrote:

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Ntrails wrote:

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cynic wrote:
I don't get it... why do some people feel the urge to **bleep** on someones thread even it's none of their business and doesn't harm them the slightest? e-**bleep** enlargement? real-life frustrations?

anyway Ntralis, even though I am not a fan of SFC's faction, I would apreciate if you could spare us your selfrightous comments. it's not easy to establish a new crew and if he want`s to go for it then wish him luck or at least have the decency to stay off his thread...

Message Edited by cynic on 09-25-2005 03:34 PM

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    What i want is an explanation of why I (as a female RSI) would want to be in his crew and faction?  Is it helpful to noobs?  Are there 50's happy to power level? Is there something that his lesser known un proven crew is gonna offer me that i couldn't get at a bigger more successful one?  Is it a crew of friends or just random female RSI's?  Are they all gonna be playing at roughly the same time?  No it isn't easy to establish a crew and sometimes i feel people do it without thinking through what they are doing.  A whole bunch of factions are recruiting so it is a competetive market and to me just saying all female crew is not enough of a hook to get me.  Aims?  Ganking preferences? All the stuff that affects how he expects the crew to act.  That is the info required.

 

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If you are looking for a faction and only want more detailled information about this one, I apologize for assuming a rather hostile background of your post. It would be easier if you didn't write things like "I have not heard of any of you and that is never a good sign" though...

I admit, all the points you mentioned should be included in a recruitment post and there is, of course, nothing wrong with asking about these things. But to me, it looks as if you didn't ask out of curiosity but solely to critisize SFC's post and crew. Again, I apologize if this was not the case...

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  I was asking these questions for myself, and for anyone reading this thread in the hope of useful info about the guy and crew they are being asked to join.  If i sounded disdainful it was for the manner of the thread - not the idea. I am happy with that and think it is a nice catch but i feel like the leader expected people to join just because of that and i expect more from a recruitment thread than that - a website is great but if that is too much then put all relevant info here.  And i said 'never heard of you' for a reason - if i haven't then he prolly doesn't play at the same times as me and if he does and i ain't never seen then we obviously have different motivations/ways of playing.  Do you see?

  I would not start a crew as lightly as i feel he has. I think such a thing needs commitment and time to be good.  Look at the effort others have put in.  Me? I would join either a reputable faction or one that i knew people in.  Till then It's being the last of a rag tag bunch of individuals.

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The_Wendigo wrote:
I think the 15% is right as it is.  SMGs have a high rate of fire, which makes it seem that it is more than 15%, but in reality it is perfect.  I am biased as I use Clamor as my primary weapon, but it seems to me that the Stun is the main reason for using it.  The damage on Clamor is fairly low, considering that it is the highest level Dual SMG available, and I think that if the Stun was changed, it would make them worthless.

The Stun on Clamor is also one of the few ways to stop a fleeing opponent, seeing as how you can't use abilities while moving.  15% is fair.

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Jilted_1 wrote:

I agree that in the right hands Aikido can win against other MAs, however I have some numbers that shine some interesting light on things.

 

Just to get an idea of potentiial DPS for each of the soldier branches I added the DPS for all the specail moves together and here is what i got.

 

Aikido = 339

Karate = 357

KungFu = 495

 

Duelist = 358

SMG specialist = 472

Expert Rifleman = 235

 

Now understand that this isn't abosultely accurate, just a generalization of potential DPS.

 

I see 3 things wrong here, ER seems pretty weak, SMGs are a bit high, and KungFu is outrageous. In comparrison to the other trees it should be obvious that KungFu and SMGs are are doing alot more DMG than the others. This holds true to my experience in game as well. 

 

-Jilted

 

 

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All I know is that as a hacker I usually die in interlock pretty quick.  But then I am always on withdraw - so not really trying to stay in.

 Just make the state requiring move cancel/end the state.

 or put them on the same timer

NIA -WE MISSED YOU

  Seriously it is soo good to hear an old voice.  Any sign of Psilent?

    When i am jacking in i hope to see you around.

The fragments have a cost?

 I.e it costs you to make the vaiable frags and also to make the code itself.... it is simply collating the costs.

 This is a guess. can someone disproove?

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CPULoyal wrote:

No, variable fragments doesn't have a cost associated to them at the moment. If you code them individually, they cost nothing. In the other hand, the ability itself has an overprice of exactly 8% above the listed cost.

TekMon, The New Order

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kk. Was wrong

/bug

*CENSORED*?? You are:

a) A god amongst men

b) someone with far too much time on their hands

c) A pb&c addict

  Pick   Its a beauty.

I'm a man   who knew?

 I like the new new sig. LE flavour indeed.

  hvcft transmission.......
U.s.s. Enterprise

Follow the angle

I bought mine for 8k

  Just saying, shop around

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WarIock wrote:

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Foxxdie wrote:









It's basically a shiny bs coating so the devs could translate old MMORPG standards in the form of more "computer-like" abilities. I wouldn't take this as Canon.

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Yeah, cause there's a huge market for MMORPGs where the only options you have are using MAs and shooting.. maybe now and then auto-hacking a PC (no, they wouldn't get you to actually hack one as you'd do in RL). Or yeah, they could have the driving into the game, as it'd probably be easy to have a gameplay that doesn't turn it into a GTA and doesn't seem too limited. And yeah, WE WANT MELEE! It can't be that hard to do that.



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Now, sorry if I was a bit harsh, but the fact is, regardless of how much some of us would love a game, MMORPG or not, that allowed us to create a character of our own and "live" it the way we'd see a character live inside the environment we see in the movies, doing such a thing would be difficult by itself. Then, marketing said concept in order to pull as much people as they wanted would be even harder. So they did what was more logic - transpose the world of the Matrix into a MMORPG, as the Matrix itself is a MMO environment. Then, they had to make a few compromises to be able to adapt the concepts from the movies to concepts that would appeal to the MMORPGers. Because, regardless of how much anyone wants to make a work of art, in the RW, to get a game in the market, it has to be a selling concept.

And yeah, as I implied above, some concepts are a bit harder to implement than you'd think.. at least if you want to do it right.

Message Edited by WarIock on 09-25-2005 01:49 PM

Message Edited by WarIock on 09-25-2005 01:50 PM

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   they come when a mommy coder and a daddy coder 'get it on' in th back of a truck and

WOOF WOOF

  Here comes the hacking glory days

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DillingerFour wrote:

What about our abilities? do we keep everything? can we trade in what we dont want anymore? Id personally like to get rid of assassin data miner MKT and Shadow as they arent what they were in cr1.0, so how do we go about this?

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Are there female equivolents?

ello shape me old buddy me old pal

 How you get this fab new item?

  And wat happens as i won't be jacking in for like 2 months..... will i still get one?

Is it tradeable?

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Desilvio wrote:
If you join us I'll take off my pants.

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   i expect that simply in shock to the next time you actually see me jacked in :p

  Put simply. I made an everyman char.

  In CR1 I had every tree (bar doctor) levelled to the max (or maybe 48ish).  I loved playing around with loadouts and trees etc etc.  In order to preserve this I gave my initial stats of

25
15
15
15
19

  I think thats it as it appears in the bonus box.  I am coming to the realisation that whilst I can use all my trees... I suck at all of them to a fair degree.  Especially MA - I simply don't do enough damage (I'm aikido) when I do hit.  I suspect a lot of my failings are due to stats as much (if not more) then technique.  I still have my first stat hack (the CR1 stat hack they gave out.... remember??!!) so thoughts and examples of your own if you would....

I like it.

  But all I know for sure is that as MA I really enjoy 1 on 1. and usually die in multi on 1 before I can get a kill. States have been induced on me by a level 10 shooting at me from outside interlock, whilst the level 50 fighting me kills me with state requiring specials (needless to say i returned and ganked the 10 - but t'was very aggravating.

bah bah bah bah bah

  Ich lieber es