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ShiXinFeng wrote:

With Rare's description of the new mission quest system, I think we are on the verge of some really cool stuff in terms of story missions. Think "Rescue Morpheus from Agents" scene from the movies meets Pandora's Box quests.
Anyway, I had some ideas for some things I'd like to see incorporated into the new mission system, and I'm sure you guys have ideas as well. Dreams, to be sure. But hey, you never know what might make it. So, here they are:
Make mission quests more epic in scale. Get beyond the "go here, hack there, put there, leave area" basics and get really creative with what we have to do (i.e. if you don't bow to Seraph before he speaks, he instead kicks your @$$ and tells you to come back when you've learned some manners).
Make at least one part of the mission quest require a team of people to complete. Maybe a particularly hard boss that requires at least one member of your team to be a patcher, or a mission that requires computers being hacked in different rooms simultaneously. Give it that "You and your hovercraft crew must complete this mission" kind of feel.
Make one part of the quest so that two teams fight over the objective. If you don't win, you can't complete your mission.
That's all I have for now. I'm looking forward to some of the other ideas we can come up with here.

I like the first two ideas. The third is good, but less appealing to me.

I would like to see more utilisation of a team build to do missions. We already have missions that are done more easily if you have Hacker or Pick Locks loaded. I can't see it being too far a step to go further and require other abilities to be loaded. Perhaps (throwing out an idea) a mission phase that requires you craft a consumable for them (antibiotic or health pill). Its something that LOTRO does (though they have profession at it is easier to ensure people have the right things to craft, if that makes sense). The idea of hacking several computers at once would have an awesome feel. Thinking about it brings back memories of Reloaded. I highly doubt having the same level of hacking, but thats what I think about when I think of this.

As for the bowing to Seraph, that would be cool. (Again referencing) LOTRO had a similar quest given by Aragorn some way through the game. It basically involved exactly what you described. You had to bow to forward the quest. You didn't know you had to bow, just that you had to show good manners (or such like). Would certainly make me feel more immersed in the world.

The third idea. Its not my cup of tea, but I could see it appealing to some.

Neoteny wrote:

I mean, prior to that incident, there were (and still are) Machine missions where you are asked to escort a Zionite to an agent so that he might be reinserted.

A thought that had crossed my mind was that Gray was just saying that they were being reinserted. When in reality they were being "knocked-off".

EDIT- That actually makes no sense. Surely he would just tell you to kill them? Or tell you he was going to kill them?

If this change brings new players into the game then great. But I currently see the changes are threatening to reduce numbers again.

Ideally this game needs to be torn down and rebuilt. But hey, thats an ideal world.

I'll give this a couple of months. Hopefully it'll see memories of old come flooding back (that being a good thing).

As for liasions. Having only 1 character I've only been exposed to those on Recursion. Most never seem to be on, and when they are they haven't a clue what RP is going on, or are on just to check mail. And whether we like it or not, there is favourtism. Just because they are alts doesn't mean favourtism won't factor into their actions (either IC or OOC). I wish we had a proper LET again.

I'm in two minds about all this.

I'm hoping the changes will make the game alot better. Hopefully the less frequent events will allow better events that I really enjoy. The fact the meetings will take place on different servers means I'm going to have to make more characters than the sole EPN I have on Recursion.

Liasions? The only one I liked left a while back anyway. And given what has happened in the last few days, perhaps its only a good thing.

In terms of EPN and CYPH tags? I'm not too bothered. Current EPN seems very much following Zion anyway. Not that I like it, but the storyline is such. I'll keep my tag if I can for RP purposes.

My only issue is the hope part of it all. I think all parts of this need to succeed for the whole change to be for the better. One issue and the whole thing could fall apart beneath us.

At least while things transition (so to speak) Mines of Moria will be unlocked (18th Nov). So at least I won't be without a viable MMO.

Enge1 wrote:

You planned to provoke people. "Let's see if we get through with this". It didn't work - nothing bad happened, you just weren't invited. Now you come to the forums and blame random people for what happened.

Not quite. But then again you Cyphs never could keep track of things. Perhaps you should through more carefully.

Anyway I shouldn't be here...

Vinia wrote:

Also what wasn't needed at all was making the point that org barriers could be bypassed. Well done, good job. Those that did strive to make the point, we already know it can be done, it's really not necessary to reiterate this widely known fact, so what was the point? Considering the low level needed for the meetings, it's not hard to make an appropriate character if you seriously want to take part assuming you have space. Creating a random name is not hard either and even if you intend on deleting the character afterwards having a non button bashed name will allow you to recreate the character if needed the next time easily if you want. Really, I would have expected a little more maturity from some members of the community, especially from those people who have shown decent levels in the past.

You're the people that call us terrorists. We were simply conforming to your beliefs. Our little "stunt" caused no issues. Rarebit kicked us soon enough (as he says, its hard to miss a Gold Tag where it shouldn't be). I then logged onto my alt to go to the meeting. Not to cause trouble, but the participate. The two characters can't be put in the same boat just because my main is EPN. As I've said before, and will say again, my alt is Machine. The player behind them should not be a prerequisite for attending. At no point did Rarebit say "Players main has to be Machine." He said the character had to have the required rep.

Yasamuu wrote:

Would probably be a good idea to go back to school and learn how to read, because if you read the previous posts in the thread it's got absolutely *nothing* to do with favouritsm. Infact, it's about names as you addressed in the first part of your post, so maybe you actually did read it correctly and are now just trying to cause trouble/grab attention? Really, don't get where favouritsm comes into a simple organisational meeting but I'm not brushed up on the latest conspiracy theories.

The idea of favourtism could come from the fact that Rarebit has said people with names using a 'I' instead of 'l' is awkward and he'll not teleport someone he can't type out. Do along comes Dulux with the "trick I" and Rarebit happily tries the name twice. Yet the character with a random name (no "trick I" I might add) didn't even get the one attempt needed to type his name out. Its one rule for some and one rule for the others.

I'll say that again.

Dulux - two attempts at porting

Random name - No attempt. Just one attempt would have sufficed.

Now I'm going to leave this thread now before I say something that gets me the ban stick.

Rarebit wrote:

GreyMountain wrote:
And I have to assume your lack of "intel" on anything we asked was down to the fact you're too busy drawing those cinematics than actually worrying about where the story, which is hanging by a thread, is actually going.
Generally if Gray says he doesn't have information on something, that's because the Machines don't know everything. There are also things he isn't willing to disclose. If this is an attempt to guilt me into giving you story spoilers, it isn't going to work. =p It's also a surprising combination of accusations, given that the cinematics are the front line in the delivery of the story.

Guilt trip you? Please. I'll follow the story when you get round to writing it. I'm just telling you how I saw it. Granted Gray said their was lack of intel at points when it was obvious he had more to say. Such as the Oligarchs control over the Machines. Being told not to discuss? More like can't discuss because their control prohibits it. It was just parts when like the Morpheus Sim, EPN hovercrafts. All convienently lacked intel. It just seemed that you skipped over those side-stories. To me it felt like you skipped them because you didn't have any real answer.

Cinematics are the front-line? Lets see. In your cinematic we had Veil kill Shimada. One small segment in the story. Something that could have been written into a story (one easier to follow too). The content in game is where the front-line should be. Where we get to participate and interact. We don't want to be bystanders watching the story go by in cinematics. They should be there to support the story, not tell it.

Rarebit wrote:

I have to type out each name manually when teleporting people. Between that, checking every person's level, and checking their org, it takes a long time to get everyone through. So no, I won't be wasting everyone's time trying to hunt and peck out long keyboard-mash names just to bring some along some lowbie alt whose "name" nobody can pronounce, and which would spam chat on its own every time they said anything--and that goes for anyone who might try something like that.

So lets see.

1. You're being lazy not typing out a characters name. Just the one time was sufficient to port him.

2. You thought he would spam chat which is an assumption. One which, had you ported him, you would have realised is a false accusation.

3. A few PN were there to point out the pointlessness of Org-locks when you port them away anyway. A Merv was there amongst the crowd until the last second. And seeing as you have the "manually type when teleporting people" you just simply don't type their name and move onto the next person.

4. My alt was there to actually be part of the story. A small piece of the story yes (seeing as you've removed most of the content and jammed 6 weeks of story into 30minutes of missions). The alt is not to be affiliated with my main. Those are two seperate entities. They are controlled by one person, correct, but they all have different reasons for being there. You can't just assume that all my characters are going to be the same EPN loving, cocky, sexy a**hole that my main is.

5. The meeting format sucked. Not because it wasn't like an old LE. Its just you went over the same nonsense again and again. Stuff most people had worked out for themselves anyway. You just listened to your select groups and characters and let the rest get increasingly bored. And I have to assume your lack of "intel" on anything we asked was down to the fact you're too busy drawing those cinematics than actually worrying about where the story, which is hanging by a thread, is actually going.

Rarebit wrote:

Dulux wrote:
Whoops, my characters name had a capital i in it, sorry.
Yeah, took me two tries. >_<
Anyway, this is really not that complicated. Liiiy, whatever, that's all fine. You really have to go out of your way (or mash the keyboard) to make a name that's going to be problematic, and the people who do that obviously know what they're doing.

And so, you're quite willing to try a name twice, one that contained a "trick" letter. Yet, the character who had no "trick" letters and could quite easily typed by just looking at the screen didn't even get one attempt.

Laughable. The whole thing is quite laughable. Oh, and seemingly two-faced.

eval wrote:

Again, because Rarebit probably had a feeling that the character would cause some kind of trouble/would be counter-productive to the LE.

He shouldn't pre-empt on gut feeling. He has admin powers. He could have kicked the character at any given time had he been a trouble-maker. But no, he excluded Odj before a word even sprang from his mouth. Just because someone has a feeling about something doesn't make them right. The person first needs to do something to confirm the belief before action is taken.

The name could be code? The name could be anything. The guy was there for the meeting and was ignored because of his name? Even for Rarebit thats petty. Then again, seemingly any argument would be petty when all odj wanted to do was be part of the meeting. Heck AngelicDream got in with [quote]An EPN Spy[/quote] in her background details. There is obvious cause for restriction to the meeting.

Everyone has alts for different orgs, be it soley for the missions or the full-blown RP that comes with it. Since when did a name have anything to do with what the character can do? Rarebit overstepped the mark here, no question. The player wanted to go to the meeting as a Machine because that is what his Syntax alt is. These meetings meant Odj had to create an alt on a server where his main is EPN. That bias cost his Syntax alt (technically speaking) the org meeting he should have been part of.

Well I respect those that think they like these meetings. I'm amazed you can put up with such lacklustre content. But lets not go moaning at those who don't like it. Rare needs to get feedback from both sides, and so I'm adding feedback to the "I don't like it" side.

If this is the content we can expect then I applaud those who persevere but I certainly won't be hanging around to stand there. The level of content is dire now. 5 weeks of missions condensed into 1hrs work. And all this amazing content? Clothing items that are mostly obtained doing the same 2 quests again and again (and again and again). A few pieces are elsewhere sure, but they're for quest givers that most people probably did ages ago.

*Creates alt and farms Choppers.

Rarebit wrote:

GreyMountain wrote:
Yeah. Clicking Ok allows me to get to Loading Character. Then I get another error saying Corrupt Files. I know some faction mates can get in after clicking OK, but they're on XP. And I'm on Vista.
A "corrupt file" error is probably a separate problem. I was able to get into the game okay on my Vista install. We're aware of the "missing file" error reported by the launcher in Live, and hopefully they'll figure out what the server config issue is that's causing it (9mmfu says it didn't come up on our various test servers).

Hmm, odd. I just randomly opened it up again and tried. While getting the Patch Error I was still able to continue all the way through this time. No idea why, but at least I can get in again.

Yeah. Clicking Ok allows me to get to Loading Character. Then I get another error saying Corrupt Files. I know some faction mates can get in after clicking OK, but they're on XP. And I'm on Vista.

caillech wrote:

So, What is with this Patch Error, a necessary file is missing message when the game restarts after loading the patch?

It would appear so. Station Launcher will work though. Hopefully a temporary fix (like last time) though. I have mentioned this to SOE Support. After several Reps strangely disconnected when mentioning MxO. Surely a coincidence.

Dun dun durrrr

Well, whatever you do I wish you good luck.

JackFullman wrote:

SampleNow wrote:
Can we get some details from Brenlo or any of the other 10 admin that are on the forums?
No doubt. SOE really should be responding to the worried subscribers on there looking to know what will happen next. I personally know with no hope of new content and storyline advancement I'll probably go elsewhere...

Yes. Because this thread has been up for soo long already. Pfft

/tapphoot.

At least the glasses have improved on the original 3D glasses. You know, the one red and one green lens. Those were awesome.

Rarebit wrote:

PVP in the Government Building area on Vector will be set to all-level in about 10 minutes.

Is that not too early? I would make that 1pm.

TekMon wrote:

Yeah, I know I sounded as a sour loser. What I was trying to say is that the crash disrupted the original flow of events and allowed Zion to take over the lobby first and later the roof. A normal LE in many ways, but as I said too fast. Not the kind of memory I want to keep, but the game still goes on. Now be a good Zionite and go back to rave at your cave, OK? :: wink ::

I kind of understand what you're saying. And I certainly agree it was rather short-lived. Even with the character crash I think it truly lasted all of 20minutes from their original appearance. I was expecting to see them be made a level 100 or just incredibly high buffs and resistances.

I intially thought that the original crash was Rarebit pulling them off and actually weakening their buffs (Pace seemed to be regenning faster than we could hit her). But I think, in retrospect, there was only a few of us attacking at the time. Then the Zion zerg did truly take over.

I enjoyed the short-lived fighting, and seeing a few people hyper-jump to their deaths. That was hilarious.

TekMon wrote:

Rarebit wrote:
Pace/Ookami are sharing a machine (dual client) and crashed at one point. Ghost took a powder until they could all come back, then they all started again at full health. Ghost went unattackable after Pace and Ookami were down.
I don't complain on these, but the crash allowed Zion to take over the lobby. Anyway, it was too fast to be entertaining for a LE, but at least I was able to take some shoots intended for Ookami.

How would a Character crash have truly affected the lobby events? I'm not saying you're poor losers or some such, but I feel the location was a good choice as it led to the use of tactics. Rather than everyone wailing in from all directions, dieing and rezzing. With several choke points you had to make decisions. Decisions that would determine whether you would live or die, and whether Zion, Merv or Machine won.

Though I will say there were so few Machines, I *slightly* felt sorry for them. Nevertheless, Pluribus Neo ftw (with help from a few others.)

I think they need more resistance.

Bayamos wrote:

So are runtime bits a no-no?

I sure hope its no holds barred. Cos I'm going to have a few tricks up my sleeves.

Hmmm. I wonder if Rarebit eavedropped on us taking bets on how late he would be to the LE?

*Hits button while people are on the floor.

GamiSB wrote:

Old news as said but nice find none the less
However if you are trying to use that date as evidence against the perma 1999 story we have going on I'd like to point out that the date is under the expiration side and doesn't prove much other than that passports, drivers licences, break tags etc, expirations can surpass 1999 however they would all be pushed back a year (2001 - 2000) once Jan 1st comes around again.

I maybe wrong. But I think you're missing the other significance in that date? 9/11???

I remember it occured about 20 minutes before I got home from school. Just walked into the house to find mum silent on the couch watching BBC news, tears rolling down her eyes. I still have the hairs on the back of my neck whenever I hear or see that footage. The noise from the people near the public cameras is etched on my mind forever.

I draw smiley faces on my palm with the hand cream.

I work on the service counter of a supermarket btw.

Everybody knows that the bird is the word.

If it is a prequel as I have heard most sources say it will be, I can't wait. I'm looking forward to exploring Rapture in its prime and marvelling at the atmosphere. And then slowly watching its demise.

That may seem sinister but hey.

I can't remember tbh. Obviously nothing that spectactular. I know I had a rubbish PC back then. Was probably the Sims and old Star Wars games.

Was more of a console gamer then. With a Gamecube and N64. So, playing Rogue Squadron, Zelda, Zelda, and more Zelda.

Their release dates are soo close together I can't remember what the order is.

But.

1. Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria

2. Left 4 Dead

3. Fallout 3

I've hated anything to do with "traditional" Star Wars for around a year now. Ever since my old housemate watched and rewatched (numerous times) Blue Harvest and then tried to get me into SWG (I lasted around 5 hrs). Then came the Clone Wars cartoon film. I was sick of it.

KOTOR and stories from around that era though still enthrall me. They are much better, and I haven't been flooded by it either.

I'm seriously looking forward to this. I do promise not to be a Jedi. That is soo cliche.

exsuscito wrote:

That's what the MMO market is missing - fantasy titles.

Yeah, but real-life MMOs would suck. Sleep, wash, eat, school/work, sleep.

No saving the world for me. Oh no.

I swear. Whenever I play the Sims I try and make good storylines to follow, and do interesting things.

Instead it always comes down to sex and lesbian affairs. Or a preying mantis style woman who kills her boyfriends once pregnant.

I should probably seek help.

Watched the film last night. Extremely fast-paced. Probably too fast-paced. Certain parts were a struggle to keep up with, ruining key parts of the film. And the ending. Well, I certainly wasn't expecting to end it like that, seemed there was so much more there. But, I guess they plan on carrying on the storyline again.

I think I need to watch at least once more to get the full story, the action sequences just blew me away.

Procurator wrote:

The Family aren't difficult to find in the slightest. If you want a hint, they're underground, in - if memory serves - the closest marker to Arefu.

When I went looking for the family they weren't in either three of the markers I got given by Evan King. I stumbled upon them by accident after killing 3 Super Mutants in a row.

Would just like to add that I am really enjoying this game. Loving the old style music too. Been on it all day yesterday and I have yet to leave Megaton in search of Galaxy News Station.

Just like to say that Fire Ants are a absolute *****. I partially gave up on that quest and just ran through them all.

And has anyone else had Hitmen after them yet? I had some pop up as I came out of a railway station. Note came from a B at Tenpenny Tower. Which is odd considering I killed him after I ratted him out. That was a bad move. First victim of my actions. Well, unless you include all those people I've potential lied to in that book.

A 1000 caps! Is that all? My head is worth at least 10times that.

Ballak wrote:

Virrago wrote:
GreyMountain wrote:
And has anyone else had Hitmen after them yet?
My guy has Talon Merc's after him, they had a note on them saying I had a 1000 cap reward on my head

If you're evil, Regulators come after you. If you're good, Talon Mercs come after you.

Yeah. I've had Talon Mercs after me too. But I have had ones just called Hitmen. There orders came from Burke who I killed. I went to visit Tenpenny Towers and none seemed any the wiser, though I did wipe out some Ghouls for them in the hope of getting access to the Penthouse Suite thats empty. Any idea how to get that?

Oh, and I haven't stumbled as far along the quest as Darm but I did get to Rivet City before visiting GNR. Still had all the dialogue options available. I had no idea who Doctor Li was, but apparently I did. :S