Sup Kai!!...hehe...cant imagine Olbaid being Craint..two different people

well yeah Avath is still subbed, but even if she wasnt doesnt mean this thread is less useful, theres something very important pointed out here and is the Real question thats been in everybodys minds, when do we get answers to anything regarding Feedback of Mxo's future???, since this is not the subject of this thread ,im hoping that someone can point me to the direction or thread that this was said from Walrus (after the anniversary..blah blah blah..), that is the answer that we really need before further discussing here about a merge.....oh and  merge ftw... btw

i guess hes gone again

CodeNut wrote:

Avath wrote:

Thanks!

I wasnt "asking" for a merge, since this thread its about *discussing" ideas, therefore the name *Development Discussion* and not a *ME WANT* thread.  Its about giving ideas...

Funny how some people post just to say they wont post.

What's the title of this thread?

this thread is mainly for players who are sick of being in a ghost town to discuss a "hope" or "possibility" of a merge, not for some nay sayers to get on the defensive of anything put out on this thread...no, you wont get no forum cqs here, this is not what its all about ...ive seen a lot of people wanting this merge, its not two or three people who want this,its the vast majority,  i say  6  character slots in Syncursion.... a merge or a character transfer.so go boo-hoo if you dont like it. Avath refered to it as a discussion of ideas and i think it has been shown , you just have to read to notice a couple of ideas floating around, people like Villemar and others who have contributed thoughts and ideas  to this thread  instead of bashing it .

Make Neoteny dev ftw...lol

really would be cool to have those things, and have a response like "fixed" or "working on it"...or at least say not possible and maybe give some reasons why not. The Roundtable is filled with lot of great ideas, but lately im getting the feeling that nothing is possible, theres no new updates etc and no promise that they will, is this the end of mxo?...can any changes at all be possible?...anyway *fingers crossed

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate.  This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else.  IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

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I agree

***blu4dragon****On the side note, no matter what SOE does, it won't stop me playing my favorate MMO

Good luck with it though, I'm sure it won't happen, so you guys can quite your petitioning about it *Smiley Face*

And PSION is right.***

no...and if not a merge a character transfer

well when this post started the game certainly wasnt in this state, it was the begining of what we have now, what you are saying about "this thread should be closed because we dont have...blah blah"sounds comformist, and also sends a clear message...if a merge cant be done, a character transfer either, and all developement  ideas that are posted in this section is a waste of time, cause anything cant be done...no new updates, no new nothing, well then im the first to say that not only they should close this  thread but they should close all developement roundtable and just make a bug report section, because if youre right PS1on, then its all a waste of time posting in the roundtable and hoping for improvements.

.... merge...when?, how?, who?

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I have to say i agree with Ballak on this one...and its very sad. I can say i saw it coming thats why the merge idea came up recently, but yes.. it feels like something is definately wrong here and missing, it feels like when some supervisor wants an employee out , giving him crappy hours and the worst assigments, till he/she gets fed up and quits. but what  i dont really understand is the why??..when this mmo has so much potential.

yes he joined merovingian faction The Merovech Inc

i would like to see more clothing like quicksilver gloves or even overdrive bandana.maybe some kind of quicksilver instead of red... maybe  purple, i wouldve said green, but then itll look like  star wars light.

Interesting

i think that would be ideal,and if used for mxo would be perfect,get something xtra other than subs.

Gerik wrote:

Avath wrote:

Gerik wrote:

Avath wrote:

Its silly to enter in arguments like "most people over Recursion are rude", cause that has NOTHING to do with what we were discussing here.

Yes it does. You're asking for merg because there's no one playing on your server anymore, when being rude to new players and pushing them over to the other servers could be your reason for a dead server.

You are generalizing, not everyone are the same. Some people from Syntax are rude too, and many are nice... cant jugde everyone for the action of others.

No, I'm not. I said it does have something to do with the topic when you said it didn't.

Its silly to enter in arguments like "most people over Recursion are rude", cause that has NOTHING to do with what we were discussing here. Keep in mind, lots of people you find in Recursion are in Syntax too, so by saying Recursionites are rude, you are saying that about people in Syntax too. People are rude no matter the server, and nice no matter the server. We are ALL MXO, 98% of us have characters on the 3 servers... its not like "Uh im logging to Syntax let me be nice now". We all are the Community of this game. So please lets not start silly arguments like that.

Is that what you dont understand Gerik?...just in case im refering to the highlighted part of her post.

Dulux wrote:

Kybutra wrote:

Im in the same vote as Eval on this one, I try'd leveling on recursion but most were pretty rude so i said screw it and went back to syntax.

Though to be fair anyone going to any other server can say the same. I've been ignored when asking simple questions/told to 'go back to recursion' etc. on both vector and syntax by some very unfriendly people. Then occasionaly i meet some nice people who help me out.

Just depends who you run into first i guess.

very true Dulux, anyways this whole merger thread has taken a completely different route... so yeah if the merger or something similar gets done, well it gets done.. i hope you all have fun over there in syntax.

eval wrote:

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

eval wrote:

Here's a question I'm kind of curious about that I'd like input on from Recursion natives: Why exactly do you think Recursion is dead/dying?

the only way you will know whats going on is to try it out for yourself. you can contact any of us for a tour.

although i have to admit datamine is a breeze, but then again...what for?

I've been to Recursion before, leveled a character to 30 then stopped. Talked to plenty of people, didn't like many of the people there.

I just hope that aint the opinion of the rest of syntax has towards Recursion,im fairly new to mxo and yes my home is Recursion...and im starting to get a feeling that the whole negative debate about a merge coming from syntax players is more of a dislike for Recursion community.Instead of seeing it as Mxo as a whole.

Thanks Koehn!! youve been cool people with us, we like having you around.

eval wrote:

Here's a question I'm kind of curious about that I'd like input on from Recursion natives: Why exactly do you think Recursion is dead/dying?

the only way you will know whats going on is to try it out for yourself. you can contact any of us for a tour.

although i have to admit datamine is a breeze, but then again...what for?

Avath wrote:

Yeah, imagine how bad it is that last night I tried to pvp with myself.

LMAO

Criingey wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Criingey wrote:

Server migration is actually a lot simplar than you would imagine.. especially if you can virtualise first.

Well in my experience that is.  I doubt very much that game servers would be different from say the servers i maintain.

I doubt it would be even remotely as simple as a typical server migration. They wouldn't be moving groups of files or entire databases from one machine to another; they'd be moving select chunks of data from within a fragile database into another fragile database. Then updating some sort of master MxO database with new values, and finally propagating that up to the master SOE server (for chat and the like).

I still reckon with the resources available to SOE this should be an absolute cakewalk.  Im talking on mass here.. not talking about one character or two.. that.. that would be alot more challanging id say.

Simple solution for SOE... here you go.   Virtulise onto a NAS box.  Bang all servers on one physical box.

i recall some months ago when we had lesig, they migrated some cyphs characters from syntax to recursion for an event and i think it was also done after that also, that they rewarded participants with a temp rsi capture of a orange ninja of some sort.. i could be wrong.

Vinia wrote:

Bearing in mind he said it in April/May time this year. So unless they have significant hardware changes or have a better understanding of manipulating the Database (assuming that they even look at it with transfers in mind) or they have extra staff on hand then thats still the official word I guess.

Of course all that is assuming that those issues are whats preventing transfers, it may be something completely different entirely.

Also transferring characters is not a decision for the Dev's to make apparently. Rarebit mentioned about a year ago that it was a decision for marketing and bean counters to make. He said he make suggestion to them on this line but alas no indications were given back.

Now of course what's currently happening on Recursion may give them a kick up the arse.

But may I ask, If there was a Character transfer service, what benefit would it bring? Are you wanting to save the server or just get your character moved? What about those players who's slots are already full on another server?

On the flip side, what benefit would there be in transfering a Character on to a server with a lower population? I know I wouldn't transfer over to a suffering server. All I'd do is what I have done, roll a new character over there.

I would say save the whole server, but if its that big of an issue and all you hear is negative feedback for example let recursion die etc, then you get to experience each night the death of it , i say transfer the ones who really want to play their 50's in a populated server,if the rest careless well, i for one do and know that a lot of people are willing to.and of course all of the points indicating that it cant be done are assumptions. I think the only way to know is have a clear response from devs.

well maybe times have changed as you mention that was a while back, this is now.im just saying if its a difficult idea to have a whole server merge.. the next best thing would be a pay character transfer system.

Arandul is right...and its sad when you learn to apreciate every minute and oportunity of pvp...at least for the 4 minutes it last.

that will give a well not accurate estimate but well its worth a try.I like the idea of moving the character for a sum $, thatll make it easier for all, those who really want to move from the server they are in, could pay to have theyre char transfered, that seems pretty fair to me.

yeah gets very cold

i agree that it wouldnt be fair to let any server unpopulated

how bout bluejeans and bluejean jacket?..with buffs of course

Pharaoh420nels wrote:

ummmm ,well least this thread got a "mxo team" post altho its still not a great answer to our questions. don't see why the hostilities with people posting new threads. i say post one on every forum till we get a real answer. not being considered is one thing but is it possible with the current dev team? what steps do we, the payers and players ,have to take to have it considered then? we've heard the why's and why not's from several players. honestly i doubt anything drastic will change.(ie merge,new abilities,cq system,etc.) seems like only minor tweaks here and there are the only things being done. don't need anymore constructs cuz really,who wants to go thru the waiting process to get back in to pvp when you can pvp by a hardline and just recon right back...

so that leaves us with the only choice of rolling a char on a server.(as much as a pain as it is) if everyone on recursion lvls up on syntax eventually that dead server will have to be "considered". i know,i know, not everyone will want to and prob just quit,giving mxo less subs. lets hope new subs read or notice server populations so we dont lose them too. i doubt new players will continue to play in a very huge mxo ghost town.

one hostile,one non-hostile is prob the best way to go.i started one on vector but  lvling all over is dreadful and syntax has been pretty busy so i havent been on much to lvl there. i feel the pain of those on a dead server who log in and theres really not anyone around.you can only take so much of npc's,missions and farming. recursion should go on strike

anyways,can we get more of an answer? theres more than one way to do it i'm sure. hell i'm sure some will even pay a fee to have a char transfer option like i've seen on other soe games.

how much does that transfer goes for in the other games? i would be interested in that, but the problem is on all the players in recursion, theres a lot of characters there collecting dust, i think the merge and this thread is a scream of desperation for help.Its nice to see some people here actually care about it. 

eval wrote:

Avath wrote:

Ballad...  Did you read Virrago's post? Read again.  So yes, this time a dev actually said something. I call that Progress.

Virrago doesn't develop for MxO, he's the forum admin/Community Rep for Mxo.

sorry but i have seen him in mara and other districts fooling around with stuff , i say he does have something to do with it, dont think he does it as a hobby.

well for what i get of Virrago's post is its not in planning but he doesnt exclude the possibility, so i think this thread has been very succesful in pointing out the views of most players who had a constructive opinion.

Virrago wrote:

We currently have no plans for any server merges at this time.

That does not however mean you guys are not allowed to talk about them and we do read your opinions in these threads.

Also, I would much rather someone create a new thread then necro some 2 month old thread with old discussion in it as it is easier for us to read fresh threads then 2 month old ones.

Oh and for you guys flaming the Original Poster, you are not the forum police. That is my job, report the post and we will make the determination on if it violates a rule, rather then you quoting rules at someone which just leads to turning the thread into a flame fest.

 

But this could be possible to do? if its needed in the future? and Virrago thanks for your response..  i think that will help  straighten the forum police  out..Thanks!!!

Its the name if its a spam and why contest!!! obviously some people have a problem with this thread since its not where they want it to be.so they keep going off subject spamming "spam"..grow up already!!!

as somebody  said theres a lot of threads about it and very dead threads too, not one dev showed and responded on the other ones. but no we have to take the word from other players that shutdown any idea thats in the developement section cause they dont have none of their own. Please stop spammin this thread.

Recursion is the dead horse by the way, nobody that gets a trial key not to talk about a subscriber  would stick around in an empty server, they would go running to syntax or dont play at all. so this merge is really in benefit for the recursion players, but im starting to see most of the objections has to do with server pride...shame shame

nice post, Feng

Vinia wrote:

Pylat wrote:

JEasy wrote:

I say merge all three servers and flag everyone for pvp at level 30. You can't lose. There will be more rp, pvp, rpvp, and more to do. Everybody wins.

Except for people who don't want to be flagged 24/7.

If you think the population is low now, forcing PvP on those that don't want to be flagged isn't really going to help.

Personally I don't want a merge now. If there was a mass exodus from MxO as some people are predicting for after Christmas, then I may be convinced otherwise.

agreed..my thinking is that it should be divided into 2 servers, simple non-hostile and hostile server, makes job easier on devs, and more population, would be a happy medium for everyone.

I agree with the merge, as for why does this subject emerge or something new is posted about it, its because its always buried and forgotten, mainly all i see is people from syntax that dont agree on the merge..Why?... have any devs participated on the other threads before? Ive heard  MXO had several or more than three at least other servers and now its down to three. Maybe if everybody would stop trying to be witty on their post and actually try to get themselves to be heard , this subject wouldnt be recurrent , its a shame that everytime you visit the server where your main character is (recursion) you find yourself talking to the same three people, and getting items you dont need because theres nothing to use it on.

great, thanks bro!

recursion.Jahzel

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