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I cancelled some weeks ago with a cutoff date of the 20th, this is what it says in my account:

Owning Station Account: Paperghost Subscription Name: The Matrix Online Subscription Period: 1 Month Account Status: Non-Recurring Billing Method or Cancelled* Original Purchase Date: December 18, 2006 Account Open Until: July 20, 2007 Next Billing Date: July 20, 2007 Next Subscription Plan: The Matrix Online Subscription, 1 Month

......can't help but notice I can still post, and login to the game.

Uh....shouldn't I be zapped by now?

Procurator wrote:

(( I'm glad the year thing's been cleared up properly, but I'm still not happy with it. The whole 1999 idea is one of the most stupid ideas the Wachowski brothers came up with.

Think about it: all that effort to make people think they've lived in different years. All the effort to change their memories, change the writing on paper, the data in computers and make it seem believable. The one reason they should have for going to all that trouble is to make sure that time doesn't progress too far and they 'run into themselves'. Makes sense. That's great.

Except that they're already having to make sure that nothing important gets invented! Why can't they just do that with the natural progression of time? Obviously people don't find it odd that nothing gets invented in the past - why should they feel differently about the future? To them it's just a period of 80 or so years where nothing happens. There's no call to keep it the year 1999 whatsoever. ))

See, this is the thing that still continues to baffle me.

Nobody ever said, in any of the movies, that the matrix was permalocked in 1999.

"You think it is the year 1999, when it is actually closer to 2199...."

I just don't understand how this ever ended up being translated into "the matrix is permanently locked in 1999". its like some crazy fanboy idea that has somehow refused to die over the years and has now wormed its way into "official" continuity.

As nobody ever said anything about it being locked at 1999 in the film, its entirely reasonable to assume that Morpheus was explaining what the matrix was to neo at the point where the simulation just happened to be at some point in 1999, and time in the matrix would have continued to rumble on inside the simulation regardless.

If the matrix had just happened to be at 1991, or 95, or 90-something else during that conversation, I doubt anyone would have latched onto this idea. But purely because they happened to use the year 1999 (with all the loaded significance such a year brings with it), some people somewhere made the decision that this meant it was permanently 1999.

How? Why?

Did the W Bros themselves ever say it was locked into 1999?

Devistate wrote:

Tytanya_MxO wrote:
(( This looks a very nice merging of real and RP it would have been well recieved on vector where a realistic and immersive Matrix is the full realisation of the games potential. ))

Or it could be because half the day/night, Vector's activity is Low so you guys seem to be somewhat used to sitting aroung waiting for something to happen. By the way, I do have a Vector character who was even in your faction, Causality yes? Great group of people and I was really sorry to stop playing him because of you all but RL stuff happened and main char duty called when I was able to finally log back in.

Anyway as I said before, try to justify or explain it away all you want but Paperghost epitomizes the end result. Screw people around like this and don't expect them to pay good $ every month to chance it continuing to happen. Every event has to have a winner and a loser but no event should have any side sitting around asking 'So why the hell are we here again?'.

well, this was indeed an event so poor it cost the game a sub - my account dies on the 20th.

i might return in the future, but....meh, who knows. it was fun while it lasted though. i'm sure i'll wander into the game to say bye to everyone soon enough SMILEY

wait, is this related to the savemxo.com thing from a few weeks ago or something different?

Trayen1 wrote:

While there have been some exceptions recently, people will most likely start to dwindle off even more because of the lack of a chance to be rewarded for our loyalty.

I'd go further than the notion of people "dwindling off" from the Merv org - this entire fiasco was bad enough to make people dwindle off from the game altogether. I'm seriously considering canceling this month - I just haven't got the time to be messed around like that. Its a pretty bad situation when the main draw of the game is actually causing a chilling effect on its own players.

apparently parts of liverpool city centre were cordoned off last night, not sure what happened though.

The Joker's piece de resistance, and the film's finale, seems to involve his threatening Gotham in a way that involves, possibly, the releasing to the air of his toxin.

...oh God, I hope not.

What is it with DC simply rehashing the same ending to all of their superhero films? Bad enough they redid Superman 2 and....

*spoilers*

tacked on the same stupid "turn back time" ending as the first one...

...but if the above is correct, this will be the THIRD batman film involving toxins / gas / whatever being released into the air, and the second one where Joker is responsible!

Bah.

imax wrote:

Grace of Darkness wrote:

imax wrote:

I heard a long time ago that Katie wasnt allowed to be in the next film becasue of all the horrible publicity her and Tom Cruise had last time around. But i only heard that, dont know for sure.

And heres some unsettleing news. I dont know if anyone has been cast yet but, apperntly Mr. Jamie Fox has been pursuing the role of Harvey Dent. Note: I didnt say WB has been considering him.

NO! ABSOLUTLY NOT! If they do this (I wouldnt but it past them to do it just to please the black audience) Then i wont go see it... yes i will, but i will be pissed.

I hope they base the script off of one of the batman graphic novels called Killing Joke. It revolves mostly around The Joker whom kills Gordan's wife, driving Gordan insane afterward.

Jamie Foxx as the Harvey Dent just to please the black audience? I think not. I'm black and I disagree with him bieng two face so keep your stupid racial casting comments to yourself. I can't see there bieng a black two-face in my opinion.

omg you need to get a grip and grow a pair, Nothing I said was a racist comment, and if you think movie studios dont pick certain races to play certain parts to bring in more of a crowd and make more money then your just an idiot. Its called marketing. Even politicians do the same tye of thing to get more votes. I can gaurantee if they had picked jamie foxx to be in the movie, there would be a SIZABLE diffrence in the amount of black poeple to see the movie, and this is becasue Foxx is a very popular actor within the black community. This doesnt mean all black poeple are alike. I never said "just becasue your black you like jamie foxx" So if you want to try and pull the racial card and start some s*** with me then I got some bad news for you. Not alot of poeple are gonna fall for that crap around here.
So I'll say again, get a grip, and keep your mouth shut about things you obviously dont have a clue about.

to be fair, I took "racial casting comments" as meaning simply making comments about the practice of "racial casting", rather than saying your comments were racist.

NightTrace wrote:

[[So does this mean I pretty much hit the nail on the head with the "poorly thought out" bit? ]]

Yep, with a hammer the size of Belgium.

NightTrace wrote:

[[After reading this... I have to say I'm used to seeing this kind of drama on Recursion. I did have a few questions, but if you dont want any outsiders butting him, feel free to tell me to **Welcome to our forums** . After going over the thread, it sounded like a Mech event, that was sold to the Mervs as a merv event. This "event" actually consisted of nothing more then a forced zerging of the Mervs involved right? Now, this is an issue because not only did the mervs get told a certain time, and nothing happend for about an hour, but then their flags were forced on in the face of greatly superior numbers, etc. Then to top it all off, it seems that the mech players themselves "planned" this event? I'm not sure how that works, considering every event I've ever been to, has been planned between LESIG/Rarebit. This player "planned event" was nothing more then a forced gank fest...how the hell does that further the story or end up being enjoyable for anybody but the gankers? Meh...poorly thought out process if you ask me.]]

Woo, my first post on the Matrix boards from America!

Anyway....back to subject....

I'm still wondering what on earth happened to the liaisons during this thing.

Did any of them actually show up near the end? If so, what did they say?

And we still have the truck sized plot hole of a Merv liaison posting the invite in the first place.

The live event post will be....interesting, to say the least.

How does the song go? "I predict a riot"...

caillech wrote:

I agree, standing about, dancing for a few hours wondering what was going down, when it was going down etc etc was no fun to say it mildly.
I have a somewhat different perspective though. There was the potential there for a good event if, and this seems like a big if given all the mistakes made:
1. If our LO's had set the stage, an announcement along the lines of "the machines are very angry at the merovingian and appear to be planning an attack. Be on your guard."
2. Followed by the actual presence of at least one of our LO's at a party advertised as to "honor or LO's."
3. With said LO in attendance at the party getting those present ready for some "event" bogus though that may be
4. No "special indestructable agents" as part of the attack force.
With some set up this could have been a memorable part of the story line. The Machines do in story, have reason to be angry with the Merovingian. The Merovingians have a right to support their leader and should have an honest chance to defend themselves.
Seems to me the two big objections were how long we all waited at the club for the "special guest" to arrive, how useless that all turned out to be, and the special agent and the number of machines in the "surprise" attack.
Granted, surprise attacks are part of any war time strategy and we mervs did get caught sitting so to speak on our respective a--es's, but I go back to my original statement. With just a few tweaks this event could have been fun for all!

Exactly.

To be honest, I'm puzzled as to why "live"players were needed from merv forces at all. Rarebit could have just as easily stuck a bunch of NPC mervs in a club, and you'd have the same end result minus the stupidity of having a bunch of actual people standing round for a few utterly pointless hours.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote: What you were told is that there was a party. If word came from the inside that something might happening
and it didn't that is unfortunant. But yes you are correct it doesn't trouble me.

Second verse, same as the first.

At some point in the future, I'll wager it very likely will trouble you....as nobody is ever, ever going to bother turning up to a live event which has been "set up" via a forum posting, especially if it relates to a club (or any other random building), ever again.

However, the shrinking of potential for possible live events is apparently no big deal which "doesn't trouble" you. Heh.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote: You don't even know what the event's purpose is, so you can't say it has nothing to do with the storyline yet.

Well, it doesn't take a genius to see that its a "no one is safe and we're sort of annoyed" statement of intent by the machines. Whether there's anything else attached to that is sort of irrelevant, as is whatever the event actually comprised of.

Peoples issue here is that they were explicitly told by their liaison to be somewhere for a live event involving....liaisons, only to find no liaisons BUT the promise of a "special guest". Then that special guest showed up, dished out some cake and went silent, ignoring everybody while they dance afk'd their behind off.

At that point, most people felt screwed over by this completely surreal non-event, and assumed this was basically it due to there not being any signposting that, you know, there might be more to come. we had one guy who kept telling everyone "the machines are coming!", but after hearing it for three or so hours, we thought it was safe to assume you had all fallen off a cliff or something. Anticipation turned to confusion turned to boredom turned to switching off the PC in disgust.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote: Well I had to stay up until 5am doing the report, if it makes you feel any better.

Not particularly. the experience and sensation of organising a happening, then following it through to its conclusion is somewhat markedly different from someone on dance3 /afk for three hours. Especially if a good chunk of those people didn't even get to see the club massacre, which would have made things somewhat more interesting than the most pointless thing i have ever turned up to in my life.

Once again, nobody was there for a party of any description. We didn't care.

We're not stupid, and it was obvious it was simply supposed to be a pretence for something else.

The problem is it took so long to get there, that the whole thing should have been called off and rescheduled for some other time, as opposed following it through to its trainwreck of a conclusion.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote: I'm not in the optimal time zone either, but when events happen is a seperate issue to wether you
thought it was a poor exuse for an event or not.

Uh, no it isn't. The time spent round waiting is going to be directly related to

a) how many players become so annoyed that they log off because they're so puzzled as to why they've been told to randomly stand in some club for anything up to 3 or so hours (ESPECIALLY if they're in a non-US timezone) and
b) how the remaining players who haven't logged off end up interacting with the opposing force that arrives on the scene in terms of putting up something resembling a decent fight (which wouldn't happen due to point A) and
c) everybody's overall opinion of whether the event as a whole worked or not.

Timing is everything.

Someone should have borrowed one of Flava Flavs clocks and strapped it to their chest for this one, because it might have come in handy.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote:

It wasn't 4 hours. The party started at 4:30pm PST, Persephone was confirmed on site at 5:44pm PST, and the club was stormed at 6:25pm PST.

trying again due to post screwing up...

if an event is telegraphed, people will turn up anything from half an hour to an hour before it begins for various reasons.

* doors are locked, whether from the same org or not so there are no mid event interruptions, or a limited amount of places available for said mission
* they don't want to miss something important
* everyone has already left the starting point for the event, which means two hours of chase-the-horde
* roleplayers will presumably want to get there early to get into character and integrate themselves into the upcoming events in a way that suits their style of play

this is common live event practice, and not unreasonable.

With that in mind, there was indeed anything up to 3 hours of standing around. I know one player did actually stay in that club for four hours. To me, that's excessive, but then so is thinking that even TWO hours of standing around - when nobody there was interested for a party, but for the promised live event - is somehow "reasonable" too.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote: It wasn't really your event, It was our event.

perhaps in future then, people might want to refrain from having

1) merv liaisons posting about Merv parties in the events forum, clearly telegraphing an upcoming event that has something to do with....a merv event
2) word being passed down through the merv chain of command suggesting that a merv event was indeed coming up, which was going on BEFORE the post was made on the forum
3) a DJ telling us endlessly that a "special guest" was on the way
4) a live event character turning up at the club, which apparently had some form of org lock placed on it for good measure.

because you know, that sort of suggests......a merv live event.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote: So no one is interested that you had to wait a couple of hours.

Awesome, you're completely missing the point. Events don't take place in a vacuum, and its in everyones best interests for something like this not to happen.

Tell me, if all the mervs had got bored and left, if you had stormed the club and found it to be empty, would you have maybe been a touch more interested in that situation?

if nobody wants to turn up for something like this event again - and they won't - who are you going to shoot at?

I'd wager a lot of machines were fairly annoyed too, considering they swept in and were left with the prospect of killing about ten mervs because everyone had logged off due to boredom and utter puzzlement at where the liaisons where.

does that seem like a productive use of machine operative time?

/ gaaah stupid post got lost while editing. i hate these forums.

Also, another potential side effect - wasting three or four hours of someones time would be bad enough for US based players, but think of the Euro / elsewhere players who sat around till 2 or 3 am wondering what on earth was supposed to be happening. Think they'll be happy to hang around when more live events are "promised" to them in this way?

I doubt it, unless they enjoy playing "bait and switch" as a live event. Merv live events are rare enough as it is on Syntax, and this will do nothing to encourage Euro players to stick around to some ungodly hour.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote:

PaperGhost:
>...no, its unfortunate that you won't be able to gatecrash any more "parties" because anyone attending
>said party won't actually be attending, because they don't fancy standing in a room for four hours and so
>will have long since cancelled their account and not be playing.

You: I think in this case using up our one time party trick was worth the cost

..."worth the cost"? if people don't want to turn up to live events anymore and / or cancel because they think something else like this might happen down the line, that's "worth the cost"?

Is that the sound of lots of other players on other servers wondering if the same fate will suddenly befall them too?

You do realise that with an almost complete lack of original static content, the only thing thats actually keeping people playing - the very lifeblood of the game - hinges on not making a total and utter shambles of the live events?

So making a big bunch of players stand round like idiots for up to four hours and quite likely turn some of them away from a game that doesn't have the biggest userbase to begin with - thats logical how?

PaperGhost:
>Who said anything about "fun"?

You: Well your posts make it obvious you didn't have fun at the event, you mentioned things about your
eye balls and also mentioned the Idea of account cancelling because of the event. This would be due to a lack of fun had?

If your assumption that the only positive reaction to taking part in an event is derived from the partaking of "fun" is right, then yes, you are correct. However, people (including myself) take part in events for all sorts of reasons that don't necessarily relate to "fun".

Try replacing the word "fun" with "having expectations managed" within the setup of the event you planned.

Then replace "having expectations managed" with "pretty much total disregard for peoples time / lives / whatever" - while STILL expecting those people to be relieved when you turn up after four hours and then interact with you ingame to complete your event, by means of PVPing and completing the outline of whatever goal you had for your event in the first place. Besides which, why would you expect anyone to have "fun" by watching dance animations loop for four hours anyway?

does. not. compute?

PaperGhost:
>We're talking about the mechanics of playing the game, herding the players from location A to location
>B at time C, to perform a variety of different actions. You know, how to make a live event be a live event.

You: Maybe it will become more apparent in the next few days.

The only thing thats "apparent" is that someone screwed up, and screwed up majorly.

What were you doing within the Machine camp that required you to do whatever you were doing for such a long period of time before showing up?

And if you knew it would take that long, did no one stop to think that, you know, making all those people hang around for such a long period of time might not be the greatest idea?

PaperGhost:
>Except, unless you're in LESIG or you happen to be Rarebit in disguise, *you* didn't actually plan anything, did you?

You:There were only five operatives who knew about this mission and assisted in planning, yes I was one of them.

Then sadly, your planning is indeed awful.

But again - please explain to me how making all those players wait around for up to four hours for you to turn up and make the event happen - which is, after all, what we were waiting for and the machine operatives too - comes anywhere close to "good planning".

odj wrote:

I liked the event. =|

too late, you posted comic book guy and now must suffer for all eternity, apparently. for what its worth, i thought was the best. comic book guy. ever.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote:

Paperghost wrote:
..I'm confused...you do realise they posted that "worst event ever" picture at my request and thats not necesarily how they feel about it, right? Seems a little odd to start hammering them about being killed on ladders because of an image post that relates to something I asked them to whip up.
Yes I am aware of that. But he still posted it.

......yes, because I asked him to post an expression of my annoyance at the event. This doesn't necesarily reflect his opinion of the event. We can post the same thing again if you like, though I'd rather not.

Paperghost: Unsurprisingly, I disagree - and I disagree to the extent that blood vessels in my eyes are bursting and dribble is flinging its way out of my mouth and onto the walls.

You: It's unfortunant you feel this way.[/.quote]

...no, its unfortunate that you won't be able to gatecrash any more "parties" because anyone attending said party won't actually be attending, because they don't fancy standing in a room for four hours and so will have long since cancelled their account and not be playing.

awesome way to micro manage the players!

Paperghost: Seriously, if a liaison posts up on the forum stating a time and a place for what is obviously supposed to be a live event - and that happens on the forum how often? - then is it too much to expect not to have to stand around watching a handful of characters on a monitor repeating the same dance emotes for more than 3 hours?

You: I do admit, your Fun wasn't a primary concern of our planning.

Hi, please drop the in character stuff because I'm talking about something that has no relation to being in character. Otherwise, you're going to be answering a bunch of points with what will mostly be irrelevant Merv bashing.

Who said anything about "fun"?

We're talking about the mechanics of playing the game, herding the players from location A to location B at time C, to perform a variety of different actions.

You know, how to make a live event be a live event.

If you planned to have a bunch of people standing round for 3 to 4 hours doing nothing, then expected to gatecrash the party expecting an epic, pulsating battle then I guess you were probably disappointed to find half the people there had already left and that means your planning totally, utterly sucks and you should never "plan" anything ever again.

Except, unless you're in LESIG or you happen to be Rarebit in disguise, *you* didn't actually plan anything, did you?

If you can convince me that making a large group of players stand in a room for 3 or more hours for no reason whatsoever is somehow a good thing, then I might reconsider my stance but I somehow doubt this is going to happen. But please, feel free to try.

nicolletteRS6000 wrote:

odj wrote:
Image[worse event ever]

Hello odj and welcome to mxo,
you participated in 7% of the operation(from my calculations), and were getting ganked every minute and a half(says the log)
Did you enjoy your time on the ladder? I enjoyed shooting you off it. Remember each org has events specific to them.

..I'm confused...you do realise they posted that "worst event ever" picture at my request and thats not necesarily how they feel about it, right? Seems a little odd to start hammering them about being killed on ladders because of an image post that relates to something I asked them to whip up.

It was indeed a contender for "worst. event. ever." Heck, its on my list of potential worst ANYTHINGS, ever.

At least if I'd stood around in my garden for four hours, I could have got some fresh air. As it is, we had to listen to fred freaking durst for most of the evening then watch Persephone go into /afk and wonder if that was the sum total of the "event". Then log out and wonder why we'd bothered.

To the mervs: You got a party, cake and a visit, it isn't so bad.

Uh, okay, standing round for 3 or 4 hours wondering what on earth was supposed to be going on "isn't so bad".

Unsurprisingly, I disagree - and I disagree to the extent that blood vessels in my eyes are bursting and dribble is flinging its way out of my mouth and onto the walls.

Bring out your comic book guy pictures, my brethren! Hand me your snark, and your annoyance and your pictures of railroads!

Seriously, if a liaison posts up on the forum stating a time and a place for what is obviously supposed to be a live event - and that happens on the forum how often? - then is it too much to expect not to have to stand around watching a handful of characters on a monitor repeating the same dance emotes for more than 3 hours?

nobody was there for a "party". nobody cared. all we were there for, was to fulfil the promise of the event that had been telegraphed to us from outer space.

Its not often a live event rubs me the wrong way. Even turning up halfway into an event usually results in something fun.

but this?

oh god, no.

this was waiting round for a corruptor to spawn, only with NO corruptor and the addition of even MORE hours of nothing happening.

Disastrous, and a vaguely large one finger salute to anyone who put good faith into the pre-arranged notion that yes, something would be happening on or around this particular time, only to find themselves shafted in the most ludicrous and downright baffling way imaginable.

Not one of the live event teams most glorious moments.

interesting as fan-fic, but.....it'll never happen. why not fill up the mostly barren areas that already exist before throwing in new districts? plus, you know....one dev and some maybe other dude. etc.

Never seen this thread before, haven't read it yet so I'm doing this in reverse, but I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess.....it'll never happen.

I'm now going to read it from page 1 and nod sagely. I may cry a little.

odj wrote:

this merv salutes you.

Procurator wrote:

Of course you didn't have time to prepare for a fight. That's why it's called a 'surprise attack'. The entire party was a ruse by the Machines, and this was all done to show that the Merv is not in control of the Matrix, as he seems to think he is.

well, i wouldn't call it a "surprise" attack as such - someone in the club was warning everyone the machines would be gatecrashing not long after the "party" - and I use the term loosely - started.

the problem is, we had to wait round up to 3 hours for something to actually happen other than standing around bored.

when Persephone went dance / afk (presumably so rarebit could go jump into the boots of whoever was running the machine show), I just gave up and switched off. complete waste of an evening - stupidly innacurate time given for the "party" to start, inaccurate description of the party (i guess i was supposed to send my merv liaisons "honour" via my magic telepathy beams because they certainly weren't in attendance) and by the time something interesting happened, most had left the building.

i'm really stuggling to recommend this game to people at the moment, and this is coming from someone who regularly writes about it in a (more often than not) positive tone. i mean - "come play this game, there's nothing more awesome than a live event involving standing round for 4 hours?" meh.

someone needs to dig out a picture of comic book guy from the simpsons and have him saying "worst. event. ever." I'd do it, but its too depressing to think about.

out of nowhere, we've suddenly had two live events in two consecutive days.

unfortunately, they both sucked.

Ballak wrote:

What was the point of the Merv doing this?

Answers on a postcard, I think. Ran round for a bit, wondered why I was actually supposed to be running round (due to not being told what we were supposed to be diverting people away from, which is stupid....how can you prevent accidentally leading people to whatever you're supposed to keep them away from, if you don't know what it is?), then logged out in confused boredom.

Devistate wrote:

Shinryu wrote:
*shrug* Things happen... some of them, you may not like. As Vogt said, a warning. And hopefully one The Frenchman will heed.
(( and I agree about the event being anti-climactic... especially with all of the build-up on the Machinist side of things, it just kind of.. fizzled at the end. ))

((Probably didn't help that we were told to meet at a club at 4:30 MCT and no liaison or LET showed up until 6:00 MCT, long after several Merv's had lost interest and chalked it up to BS))

Yeah, I eventually cleared off at 2:15AM after having stood round like an idiot from 12:30AM....well, 11:30PM if you want to get technical and include the whole "getting there and seeing whats going on" thing you do.

I eventually saw Persephone turn up at stupid o'clock and pretty much go on /dance3 /afk, at which point i put my foot through the screen and went to bed.

Sooo.....I'm guessing....machines gatecrashed and killed the mervs?

i mean, i thought the "event" the night before (wear this costume then.....go run round the city for no reason whatsoever with no objectives, k thx) was vaguely stupid, but wow. 3 hours of standing round at a party to "honour liaisons" with no actual liaisons present is a new one for me.

Warboy090 wrote:

Paperghost wrote:
bannanaphone wrote:
Paperghost wrote:
else here's a hat that shoots party streamers.

You did NOT just diss party hats...

if i could bend over and fire bullets out of them into peoples faces, I'd have been happy. Even a cannonball.

but no, they had to go and make them festive!

Wow....Your not flaming people, Your basically flaming the thread and MxO.

...please explain how equating useless party hats as a symbol of content you're already paying a lot of money for (in terms of then having to pay MORE to get your hands on something better) is somehow "flaming" the game and / or the thread.

Its sort of hard to make a comment on the game in relation to the topic of the thread without actually citing any examples of elements from the game that may or may not go towards expressing my opinion on that which is being discussed.

Its also sort of hard to disagree with the original posters idea by saying that paying more money to get more content is a bad idea, when you're already having to make do with recycled work for the games static content, without actually mentioning it.

Yet somehow you do, and its a "flame". I'll remember to blindly agree with everything ever posted in future - I forgot debate was supposed to involve a unanimous chorus of one-sided approval and agreement.

bannanaphone wrote:

Paperghost wrote:
else here's a hat that shoots party streamers.

You did NOT just diss party hats...

if i could bend over and fire bullets out of them into peoples faces, I'd have been happy. Even a cannonball.

but no, they had to go and make them festive!

vadorakamark wrote:

Skull101 wrote:
I agree with you skull86 i myself would be happy to pay more if we had what we wanted im all for paying £19.99 a mounth thats not the end of the world ,If we are geting more content then im happy

this line of thinking is vaguely worrying, because it suggests that paying what you're paying now per-year is acceptable for ~~lots of~~ some recycled content, and you need to go on a spend splurge to actually get hold of something with a little depth and longeivity to it whose replay value isn't either based on standing around waiting, or farming six million frags from six million fly monsters.

in other words, want awesome? then pay through the nose, or else here's a hat that shoots party streamers.

Havocide wrote:

Apparently it was just a big distraction to draw their enemies out.

didn't work very well considering we somehow managed to stumble upon some other orgs mini battle royale and get sucked into that instead.

unless thats who we were supposed to be drawing out? no idea, either way.

Staticzero wrote:

Wow two pages of OOC Cyphs talking last Nights Cyph thing.....

I must have misread the topic...

Or did The mervs post about what was going last night. and in speed scrolling i missed it.. ?

believe me, im as in the dark as many others probably are.

got word something was going down that was merv related - sure enough, Merv himself was on the scene, we were all turned into Commandos and hit the streets. i thought there'd be more to this event than "go walk around for a bit", but somehow we ended up in Downtown in the middle of a big machine and - uh - someone else gunfight.

at this point, i guess we merv thought this was part of our event (i don't think it actually was, though) and it then turned into a free for all.

i stuck around for a while, then got bored and logged out when i realised the live event really did consist of "go walk around for an indefinite amount of time with no objective whatsover". just wondered if something happened *after* the big PVP brawl but apparently not.

You propose "sticking it to the man" by paying the man more money?

This needs a rethink.

so will there be an org lock thing in effect?

a brave attempt at rhyming "sense" with 2006.

Harpalos-mxo wrote:

Well, Rockstar decided to postpone the publishing of this game so they can rework it and get a less severe rating.

and hide the ultra-mega-death-by-hot-coffee-in-the-face-mod in the code!

Harpalos-mxo wrote:

I might not be able to make it, we'll see. Caillech sends word however that she might make an appearance.

((As far as I know, Mega City Time = Pacific Standard Time. So 4:30 PST = 7:30 EST = 11:30 GMT))

wouldn't it be 12:30 PM for the UK?

...after we all got into our rubber suits and had that big brawl with the machines in downtown, did anything else happen, event wise? or was that the whole event? just curious, as i couldn't keep my eyes open any longer and collapsed in a heap or whatever.

Cuts wrote:

Yeah, I hate how you have to run around looking like a clown, to get good buffed clothes.

...someone tell the 80s I found its lost jacket and I'm here to claim the reward.

why do you still stay where you are?

because i can't be bothered grinding up to 30 hours of gametime just to jump orgs.

they really should have come up with a better way of being able to jump orgs without senseless grinding. huge Info payment, special set of missions to prove your worth, Tabor West danceoff.....anything but grinding.

went merv, stayed merv, stuck with merv whether i want it or not.

supersdcurge wrote:

wow, i thought i was crazy with over 8K of screen shots.. i just got owned i believe... mine are every where tho i need to create a decent filing system soon enough... :/

**EDIT**

on another note the fraps thing i i have about 20 GB of that, although i trimmed it down the other day to about 3GB..

fraps is lethal for bumping up image count. once you start wheeling through frame by frame in something like camtasia, all bets are off with regards how many pics you end up with.