Do want, as they say. We'll work out a price. Black or white, but I reckon the black one's cheaper.

Not sure about The Last Free City. Sounds nice and it doesn't seem like it's going anywhere, but it's a different community. Would the migration of the MxO community to the LFC community really work out? The MxO community is distinctive; we know each other, we have our own RP and the like. Cohabiting with another community wouldn't work out too well if you ask me. It wouldn't be a natural place to, say, continue our RP (for those who care).

Great for general Matrix stuff, but not for MxO.

Wolfess wrote:

Harpalos: I rp Vogt decompiling his pants regularly because they get untidy to wear because of this tension

The illusion is shattered.

ShiXinFeng wrote:

I've tried this using the mirroring/backup tool that SuperJenius pointed me to. The problem, as I see it thus far, is that it only backs up the main page of the forums.

I'm sorry, but I don't have the time to backup every single page of these forums. If someone wants to do it, the website copier program (freeware) is at http://www.httrack.com/. You install it, point it to the website you want to backup, and it downloads the whole thing to a folder on your hard drive. If someone can get the whole forum, I can host it and make the links work.

But it will only be a copy, I think. I doubt it will mirror the SOE forums engine and database. At least, that was my impression from using it for an hour or so.

I've been meaning to give that program a proper go. But you're right: it won't back up the database, just the pages. And my guess is that it won't do it very efficiently. If someone manages to back it all up that way I could probably have a go at parsing all the pages and dumping it back into a database. It wouldn't be perfect, but at least we'd be able to navigate it more naturally and we'd get the search function to work.

imax wrote:

Also I think Proc could do a great job as well. Even tho I know he hates me, I've always looked at him as an intellegent and respectable member here.

Eh? I don't hate anyone here.  I don't tend to hold grudges either (not out-of-character anyway), so if we've disagreed over something in the past, I've no doubt forgotten it.

TPaine wrote:

Kinda sounds like you're volunteering Proc.  I don't mean to pressure anyone, but it is a time-sensitive decision before we all lose this place.

I'd be more than happy to host it, but us potential archivists need to work together in the initial stages or we'll all have our own disparate boards and fragment the community. I fear if I just go ahead and make a forum, it'll only be so successful.

Blackjack-18 wrote:

WTB - DN1 Forum backup? Or the script database backup at least....

This is something we definitely need. I don't think it would be a good idea to bung the backup into the post-MxO board, though. As nice as it would be to essentially continue where we left off, these forums are huge and would put a serious strain on whoever hosted them if they were active. Far better to have the DN1 forums as a static archive, and have a separate, active post-MxO forum.

I'd care. I can't stand free boards.

There are several people - myself included - who have the resources to host forums, and have no reason to ever close them (i.e. the cost is marginal or nonexistent). It's then a matter of trusting that person to not show any bias. You'd have to deal with that issue wherever the forums are hosted though; there's always going to be one person ultimately in control.

Harpalos-mxo wrote:

I once fell asleep while I was hosting a meeting with some Cypherites.

This.

a) It's a beta, and

b) You're a naughty person.

Thanks for your efforts the past day. I may not have been affected (I didn't try logging in to find out), but thanks nevertheless. The community got mighty worried there, and rightly so.

In fairness, it's just coming up to 4am their time, so we can't really come to any conclusions yet. They're not going to get the graveyard shift to fix this.

I'm sure they said there'd be no more customer support for MxO beginning June the 1st. So... we may be screwed.

Of course, if that's the case I'm not going to believe for one second that this foul-up was a genuine accident.

*Falls over laughing.*

Oh man. You have just managed to topple The Adventures of Cap0ne from its rank as the best MxO-related images ever.

*Scans down the story page.*

Good grief. How long did that take to write? That's probably more than my faction's RP put together.  Well, nearly.

Kybutra wrote:

Screens or it didn't happen.

Server isn't doing much? It does almost everything. The local client just has the content and processes the interactions. Anything to do with choosing and serving content and dealing with the consequences of interactions is handled by the server.

Maybe if they just gave us a limited clone of the server and partnered it with the client. They'd just point the client and server to each other directly rather than across the Net. And they'd have to strip out anything relating to SOE's network (e.g. the player database and chat system). More than SOE can manage right now.

Not just a MySpace page. There are a number of archiving efforts in the works. There'll be a slew of little MxO nodes around the Net before this is over.

I suppose someone (*glances at Bay*) could get a single-player client working, but it would be extremely limited. Maybe we could run around the world, and that's it. No NPCs, no missions, no vendors, nothing. Just the world geometry, our character (probably naked) and maybe the weather cycle.

My goodness.  So even after all the puzzle pieces were collected and put in order there were another two or so complex steps to the result. That's some serious dedication. Well done to the minds behind this, and to those who solved it!

Phrack wrote:

You know... what I would really like to do (but I severely lack the skills/talent), is put together a website-based RPG based on The Matrix.  Something along the lines of the "Tactical Simulator" on this website.  As long as it was purely fan-based, I don't think any legal issues would arise.

It'd be a place where we could register accounts, continue our RP, and still implement some form of progress... but maybe that's just another pipe dream.

Combined with the storytelling tools of the TGS site and an interactive hovercraft battles system and it'd be the Best Thing Ever. That'd be a massive undertaking, though.

(I really should stop responding to posts like this. It's gone and got me all excited at the mere idea of it.)

ShiXinFeng wrote:

I think the franchise will slip into a coma after MxO closes. . .but it will be reawakened when someone realizes the potential for a television series. That will be the next iteration of Matrix storytelling, and probably what will revive interest in the franchise.

My dream? 5 years from now, a TV series based on Morpheus' life and search for the One. . .

If I had my way, I'd keep all faction Web sites alive, and we could continue RP on forums and in writing. Progress on the Glitch Society site juddered to a halt about two years ago, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be completed at some stage, and there'll always be a place there for RP. Even if it's just me.

Go to your room. And don't come down till I call you for dinner! 

Sorry, I'll go away now...

Right. I'm in charge.

Now that that's settled...

¬_¬

I'll sign up for beta an' all. As far as playing together goes, I'm going to oppose all of you.

I think there are about ten people doing the same thing independently. You're an archivist.

Draggy! Blast SOE and their reluctance to accept money. (Huh? ) The Glitch Society loves you right back! Not in a kinky way. Well, not from me at any rate.

/manhug

MetaLogic wrote:

the Matrix: Revolution was released in 2003.

Christ, that makes me feel old.

This is absurd. One final slap in the face from SOE, giving us four days to resubscribe before they lock us out. Are they that dedicated to ticking us off that they're willing to lose hundreds - possibly thousands - of dollars in people coming back for the last hoorah? I'm struggling to understand the sheer stupidity.

Harpalos-mxo wrote:

Hey...

Way too many good words for me to rely on messengers anymore! I decided to resubscribe just to have some parting words, and to be with you guys, this time, not through the cover of a special character. My story with the LESIG, including Vogt, has been a rocky, but oh so great experience, that a single post might not be enough! I'll take a few days to think of the thank yous, but Shinryu had a good idea in thinking that I might have stuff to say about my years in the LESIG and the stuff I did.

Maybe surprising to some who only saw me through Vogt, I can be pretty vocal on issues that I take at heart (this might even be an understatement to people who saw me in the LESIG!), so yeah, expect something much more consistent in the next days!

One thing I've always wondered: were the occasional linguistic... er, hiccups genuine mistakes or was it an act, all part of the character that is Vogt?

Looking forward to some behind-the-scenes info!

No. That would be you. Stay groovy, SIMLO.

...

You have too much time on your hands, Bay. Good stuff.

I can't think of any automated way to mirror a site, but there probably is a script or program somewhere that can trawl a site, copy its contents and generate the necessary new links. That wouldn't work with something like a forum, though, 'cos it's always changing, and you'd end up with a pretty mess that you'd have to clean up.

And then there are the copyright concerns. ¬_¬

Heh, yeah. That's why I want to talk to someone who might actually be able to do something, not someone who'll have second- or third-hand, general information about the future of the forum.

Is there anyone I can contact regarding the contents of the MxO forums? I'd genuinely be interested in hosting them in static form (minus the private sections and account passwords of course). I know you said SOE holds the copyrights, but that doesn't stop them granting someone rights to copy the data.

Wolfess wrote:

The great Vogt was played by Syntax’s Harpalos!

Three cheers for Harpalos!

On kotaku too:

http://kotaku.com/5272601/soe-pulls...e-matrix-online

Cue the 'I thought it died years ago' comments.  Prannets.

I need to work out who to contact with a serious request for the forum database (minus restricted posts and account passwords, of course). There's no way we can archive everything by hand.

http://www.glitchsociety.com will remain until I'm broke or dead or the Web collapses.

My e-mail address is pretty obvious.

I may take a look at Jumpgate Evolution, and I guess Stargate Worlds may still be an option. If neither of them, I won't be in any other MMO.

I'll put in £500 if this goes anywhere.

(Maybe...)